Ok I don't own it

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  1. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Even the Catholic church, caught up in a mess like this will have someone knocking on your door with a settlement in days, of course with a non-disclosure agreement attached.
     
  2. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    Well I talked to a lawyer and he laughed his *** off
    Said it's pretty clearly breach of contract

    He's going to call the guy and get back to me this afternoon

    I can't stop the check till I get authorization to do so from some pencil neck at the bank so I might be out the money and no boat

    Cool eh
    Who would have guessed buying a boat could be so much fun
     
  3. powerabout
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    powerabout Senior Member

    Everything you need to know about ripping someone off will be taught to you in the boating game, even how to delay payment of a cashiers check!
     
  4. wardd
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    wardd Senior Member

    if they cashed the check, wouldn't that be fraud?

    then you could bring the cops in on it as it became a crime, as it is now . it's a civil matter
     
  5. WestVanHan
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    I just remembered..I wonder if it also constitutes wire fraud,which ratchets the severity up.
     
  6. wardd
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    wardd Senior Member

    look into interstate, federal
     
  7. Brian@BNE
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    Don't cancel the check. If its been cashed then payment was received, if not (and they wriggle out of the contract somehow) you'll get it back.
     
  8. Easy Rider
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    Easy Rider Senior Member

    I'd turn into a BAD BAD galdiator over this and get into all kinds of trouble.
    Be careful dude.
    Oh ..and shouldn't you put a question mark on the thread title?

    Easy
     
  9. Fanie
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    Geezzz Boston, this sounds more like Safrica :(

    I think Par has given you some sound advice.

    Now if their claim is they haven't received the money, then all you have to offer is to cancell the check and have the bank transfer the money 'officially' on your behalf.

    For all you know they have the check but got a higher offer elsewhere now doesn't deposit your check or they have no case. A cheque is valid for three months.

    It is breach of contract, and as Par said go public. Best way to get things in a streight line. Some kind of a church eh. Oh do tell which one it is. If it appears on the news they may lose more in collections than the difference in the buyers money.

    If they get away with it they are going to screw the next one over too. If it happens enough then it becomes standard practice. Who knows what's after that.
     
  10. PAR
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    Dan, please publish the name of the church, their address and web site (if the have one) all of which is public domain stuff, so you can't get into trouble. If their email suddenly gets flooded with requests about their seemingly dishonest business practices and repeated suggestions about TV reporters and news paper articles don't get them to call you, then they'll have to cope with the bad press and flood of negative interest in their establishment. Lastly, don't stop payment on the check. If it's cashed, it's a whole new set of troubles for them.

    In all honesty, I doubt you'll get the boat, but you will get your money back and as I said previously, plus a settlement to remain silent about the events surrounding your screw over. The extra cash can pay for a bigger shower in your new boat.
     
  11. Brian@BNE
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    Bear in mind its likely one or two church 'managers' that are the issue, not the church per se. Going after the church itself could get you nowhere.

    This whole thing could have been planned - here's this $60k boat that needs some repairs. Get some quotes - ok, here's one that's high and reduces value to $15k. Funny that there was one very high quote? nah just cooincidence. Yeah, right. Then get a broker to list it, in order to set a market price. But don't give him sole or exclusive agency to sell it - leave an 'out' for a private sale. When Boston comes along and haggles the price lower that's even better. Now there is a 'market price' set, the 'insiders' simply complete a private sale but have the Boston offer on record to keep the church hierarchy sweet. Sling the broker a few $ for 'lost sale' if he squeals.

    Boston, I reckon you've just catalyzed something for these guys and that they'll have all the angles covered so legally you end up in a dead end. Wasn't your contract was with the broker? How solid was his sales authorization? By all means try and complete the sale, but be ready to accept that this one has got away.
     
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  12. dskira

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    I think it is a good advise, and Boston I will go to that direction.
    Everyone in the boat business have been f**** once by a bunch of crook.
    I am sorry it happened to you, really sorry.
    Don't waste money on mouthpieces, and unfortunately cut your loss, and take a positive course of action: fine an other boat.
    You have bad people around boats, and you find some of them.
    Keep going, keep going.
    Daniel
     
  13. Boston

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    Well this is getting interesting

    Lawyer says it looks like it's my boat although he is still looking at the papers

    If it is then they have sold my boat

    Which begs the question
    How much did I get for my boat and where's my money

    Par
    Guy was always pretty slippery about who this church was so I don't know yet
    But I think I will before all is said and done

    Lawyer said to cancel the check it won't effect the case

    Funny thing is all I really wanted was the boat now
    Well
    I get lawyers for a year or two and probably walk with just enough to pay them off
    Perfect eh

    Someone mentioned this might be a well practiced scam and they certainly may be right
    The guy has been avoiding my lawyers calls all day

    Cheers
    B

    Oh
    The search continues
     
  14. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    It would be just my luck that my first shot in the yacht world results in this kind of thing

    I mean really what are the odds

    Unbelievable
     

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    wardd Senior Member

    not all pirates are at sea
     
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