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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HOP6JnaZgw ...Global Warming - Michael Crichton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lye5liWuZw ...Physicist William Happer Schooled The CNBC Crowd On Global Warming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nSGJ7EMMiI ...How to Win Climate Change Debate Every Time (Global Warming Hoax)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4 ...George Carlin on Global Warming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEaFzhoS67I ...Former NASA Scientists... Global Warming Hoax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFd4icZki4I ...The Science Behind The Theory That CO2 Does Not Drive Climate Change Part 1 of 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDm9b_69pDg ...The Science Behind The Theory That CO2 Does Not Drive Climate Change Part 2 of 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VDDNgl-UPk ...Human Induced Climate Change - Ian Plimer (part 1 of 5)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0&spfreload ... Nobel Laureate Smashes the Global Warming Hoax ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYKggC5VOzA ...Climate Scientist Gavin Schmidt runs in fear from a debate

Anybody can print convincing sounding lies.
Seeing them talk, it's easier to judge if they know the subject and believe themselves in what they're saying.

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and this on 97% consensus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTTaXqVEGkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rce5CeKOC0c ...Climate Scientist speaks; The Manufactured Consensus

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN_oynx1D8w ...Warmists Stunned by Roger Pielke in Senate Testimony on Climate Change

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIvLEwGS-70 ...Greenpeace Co-Founders Warns of Global Climate Change Scam / Global Warming Hoax !

MUST WATCH! Rational ecology activism vs unethical ridiculous alarmism

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Science confirms it: Denial of climate change is all about the politics | Washington Post

Dozens of surveys and studies have attempted to figure out which factors most heavily influence individuals’ beliefs about climate change and their support for climate-friendly policies. But because there have been so many published recently, scientists argue that it’s been difficult to keep up with the overall trends these studies have been revealing.

Now, some clarity is being offered in the form of a new analysis published Monday in the journal Nature Climate Change, which reviews all the existing literature on climate change beliefs and pulls out the broad conclusions that can be drawn from all the combined research. The findings highlight two major ideas about the public’s feelings on climate change. First, the analysis suggests that out of all the personal characteristics examined by scientists so far, political affiliations, worldviews and values were the most significant predictors of a person’s beliefs about climate change. Second — and perhaps somewhat disheartening — a person’s belief in climate change doesn’t necessarily translate into big support for climate-friendly action. [...]

The findings may challenge certain stereotypes often accepted by the general public about who does and does not believe in anthropogenic climate change, said Hornsey — two major ones in particular. First, he said, there’s a widely held belief that climate doubters are less educated. But while there’s a small tendency for skeptics to have lower levels of education or less climate-specific knowledge, he said that the relationship isn’t particularly strong.

“Another idea about skeptics is that they’re all older white men,” Hornsey said. “Again, there’s a small kernel of truth here – people higher in skepticism are more likely to be old, white and male – but the effects are so tiny you have to squint to see them. What really popped was people’s ideologies, political values, worldviews.”

Indeed, political affiliation was the demographic variable most strongly correlated with people’s beliefs about climate change, with people who vote for more liberal political parties being more inclined to believe in climate change. Notably, political ideology — that is, a person’s overall general set of political beliefs along a continuous scale (a related, but different measure than the party a person intends to vote for) — was less of a predictor, although still a significant factor. “This suggests that acceptance of climate change is more aligned to specific identification with political parties than to underlying political ideologies,” the authors wrote in the paper.[...]

The most significant psychological variable — and indeed, the strongest predictor out of all the variables together — was a construct known as the New Ecological Paradigm, or NEP. This is a scale used to essentially measure people’s levels of environmental concern. It does not deal specifically with climate change, as the authors point out — but it is a strong predictor of people’s belief in global warming.[...]

Belief in the trustworthiness of scientists and the idea that there’s a scientific consensus surrounding climate change were also strong predictors of a person’s belief in climate change. Other somewhat less significant predictors included characteristics such as a person’s scientific knowledge, their level of individualism versus communitarianism, and demographic variables such as age, race or sex.[...]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNzwzwm-xU ...Dr Patrick Michaels: Is Science Trustworthy?

Peer reviewed journals have become yellow journalism sensation rags equivalent to National Inquirer

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Another good article IN.
Except the headline is biased. Far more accurate if it announced BOTH sides politically aligned!

Becoming enlightened?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Y9EZDdpUw
Climate Scientists Jump Ship as CO2 Theory Collapses

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As said before, let's please keep this thread about ocean news. It would be better to direct arguing just for the sake of arguing to another venue, and certainly posts calling another member dishonest or other negative remarks about another person aren't good for the forum to host and so some posts in the last page have been removed. It would be better to direct that type of post to another venue. Let's please keep the thread friendly and polite to others. Thank you.

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This thread was begun in a thinly veiled attempt to forward the notion of Human-caused climate change. The thread itself is a political tool of the left. Should I open a thread under the title of Gulf News so that I could promote my agenda to combat the efforts of people such as Imaginary Number and myark to insult and degrade the Human Race? They would have us turn over all our rights and freedoms to a centralized government run by the likes of them.

My advice is to close this thread and quickly jump on any thread that rises to take its place and nip it in the bud.

As you say, this is a thread about boat design. Any politics legitimately attached to that, such as legislators impeding the ability of amateurs to engage in their passion for boat-building or taxing the yacht industry into closing should be allowed, but to use this forum as just one more platform to destroy Western Civilization should be disallowed.
Just saying.

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There are 2 sides to every coin and if the one side is given the forum, in fairness the other side must be given an opportunity on the forum to refute it.
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Getting feisty Hoyt!
I wonder if "walking on water' and "calming the storm" and which side of the boat to haul nets, produces the more abundant catch, are appropriate threads here?

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Go for it!

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Don't forget a thread about the legal ramifications of throwing "Jonah"s overboard, the Ark design or Cleopatra's barge!

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hoytedow said: ↑

This thread was begun in a thinly veiled attempt to forward the notion of Human-caused climate change. The thread itself is a political tool of the left. Should I open a thread under the title of Gulf News so that I could promote my agenda to combat the efforts of people such as Imaginary Number and myark to insult and degrade the Human Race? They would have us turn over all our rights and freedoms to a centralized government run by the likes of them.

My advice is to close this thread and quickly jump on any thread that rises to take its place and nip it in the bud.

As you say, this is a thread about boat design. Any politics legitimately attached to that, such as legislators impeding the ability of amateurs to engage in their passion for boat-building or taxing the yacht industry into closing should be allowed, but to use this forum as just one more platform to destroy Western Civilization should be disallowed.
Just saying.
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In my opinion Climate Change is a legitimate topic of discussion within the domain of the ALL THINGS BOATS AND BOATING subgroup. Because our long-suffering moderator has allowed a number of Climate Change threads to exist for extended periods of time, I believe he feels it is an acceptable topic too. What he has consistently protested is when folks act disrespectful towards one another. On this thread there are just a couple of people who have violated forum guidelines in this respect. I wonder if banning those people from participating in this particular thread would address the problem more effectively than closing the whole thread or topic.

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