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  1. hoytedow
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    Good morning, Yobarnacle et al.
    Speaking of et al, I made steak last night and I et al of it.
    Speaking of vegan, the latest ocean news I have is the school of mullet I observed swimming around the pilings of the boat lift yesterday. I had a wonderful steak last night that must have come from a cow with a sweet face because she was delicious. Did you know Steak and Shake sells their steak seasoning by the shaker bottle? It really has a nice effect on baked dead cow. I may rename the dog to Sea Biscuit because when he sees one he eats it.

    Seriously, now. The electrician should finish wiring the boat lift today after which I can press it into service.
     

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    Bidding on Planet's Future, Activists Disrupt Fossil Fuel Auction in Utah

    http://www.commondreams.org/climate

    At the so-called "climate auction," industries were bidding on more than 45,000 acres of publicly owned oil and gas in Utah, which is estimated to hold as much as 1.87 million tons of potential greenhouse gas pollution.

    The demonstration is part of a growing "Keep It In the Ground" movement that is calling on leaders to heed the warnings from scientists, and evidenced by an increasingly warmer planet, that we must immediately stop the burning of fossil fuels if we hope to stave off the worst impacts of climate change.

    Butler said that the failure of the leasing program to recognize that "climate change is the predominant issue of our time" is a "misuse of science that fails to ensure clean air, unpolluted waters, biodiversity, human health—a habitable Earth."

    This spring, the climate movement is calling for an escalated mobilization.

    "I don’t know if we’re going to win this fight in time," McKibben writes. "But I do know we’re now fighting on every front. And the most important one is the simplest: We can, and we must, and we will keep that coal and gas and oil underground."
     

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    It is time to turn the lands in individual states back to the states and remove the federal government from administrative role over those lands which it had seized by hook or by crook from the states. The indigenous peoples of those regions would be better suited to administer those lands as they seem fit.
     
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    Don't worry Hoyt.
    The Article 5 Constitution Convention of the States (Feds not invited) is only postponed until after the election.
    The States created the fed govt and gave it some power and can take it back just as well!
     
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    There are some inaccurate quotes in that movie, Hoyt.
    Some of the scientists claim their words were taken out of context.
    Whether they were caught off guard and made admissions they after regretted?
    Or the film makers were too quick to grab a tidbit for their side?
    No matter. The film is worth watching, but with a few grains of salt.
    Don't believe all you read, hear, or see. Be skeptical! Test everything!
    The opposite of skeptical is gullible.


    http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/gullible
    gullible
    adjective
    Synonyms and Antonyms of gullible

    readily taken advantage of <he thought his grandmother was gullible simply because she was elderly, but she was sharper than he was in many ways> Synonyms dewy-eyed, exploitable, easy (also gullable), naive (or naïve), susceptible, trusting, unwary, wide-eyedRelated Words credulous, overcredulous, trustful, uncritical, unsuspecting, unsuspicious; artless, genuine, guileless, innocent, simple, unsophisticated, unworldly; fictile, malleable, pliable, pliant; deceivable; acquiescent, agreeable, amiable, obliging; yielding

    Near Antonyms critical, cynical, mistrustful, skeptical, suspicious, wary; sophisticated; clear-eyed, clear-sighted, hardheaded; shrewd, street-smart, streetwise
     
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    Myark thinks it's COOL activists disrupted that auction.
    We're only waiting for the AGWers to draw first blood.
    Bring it ON!
    I'm ready to play cowboys and socialists!
    (Might want to checkout, how the cowboys and Indians game turned out first, before you get too antsy!)


    Wonder where we'll put the remnant AGWer reservation they'll be permanently banished to?



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    Some low lying desert island would be appropriate. Bikini atoll, maybe?
    Could we re-use the name "Devil's Island"?
    They wouldn't be allowed any implements usable for violence, of course.
    But each should be issued free of charge, their own thermometer.
    To take air and sea temperatures with, and their own temperatures too. :p
    Seems MOST of their arguments, they pull out of their arse!
     

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    I was sitting in my lounge at Hamilton, New Zealand looking north ( As it happened) one evening in the 60`s and witnessed the glow in the sky from a Nuclear atmospheric test.
    I am not sure but I think it took place at Bikini Atoll.
     
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    My above post was tongue in cheek. Mostly.
    Yes Bikini Atoll was a nuclear test site, a nice beach to lie on and catch some "rays"!
    My intent was to ridicule myarks applauding the AGW activist's hyperactivity.
    Some post's back, he endorsed AGWers should sue Exxon!
    Another article I posted, AGWers were calling for arrest of skeptics.
    In each instance, I tried to point out:
    "Be carefull the sword you unsheathe isn't double edged, and cuts wielder as well as foe!"
    And "Unwise to arm with only a knife placard, when starting a gun battle!"
     
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    Towards the other end of the spectrum, 10% teach their students that global warming has nothing to do with humans, and the climate is naturally changing. Assuming the sample reflects the nationwide opinion, that means that more than 70,000 teachers allow their students to discuss the possibility that global warming is not man-made.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/climate-change-more-70-000-193353527.html

    More than 70,000 US middle school and high school teachers are teaching their students that climate change is not a result of humans, a survey found. The first US nationwide investigation into how children are taught about climate change, found that 54% of teachers tell their students that climate chance is caused by burning fossil fuels.
    Research published in the journal, Science, found that 16% of science teachers in the US personally believe that global warming is just a natural event, and humans have had no impact upon it. This is despite 95% of climatologists accepting that humans have caused climate change by burning fossil fuels, and adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.
    More than 1,500 science teachers were surveyed in the investigation from every single state in the US, taken as a sample of the 175,000 science teachers across the country. The teachers were all from middle and high-schools (teaching children from 11 to 17-years-old).
    For the survey, teachers had to state whether they "strongly agree", "agree", "disagree", or "strongly disagree" with the following statements, with regards to how they teach climate change:
    • [...] The scientific consensus that recent global warming is primarily being caused by human release of greenhouse gases from fossil fuels.
    • [...] That many scientists believe that recent increases in temperature are likely due to natural causes.
    The results showed 54% of teachers teach their students that climate change is caused by humans burning fossil fuels, and do not mention the natural process theory. Some 31% teach their students about both theories.
    Towards the other end of the spectrum, 10% teach their students that global warming has nothing to do with humans, and the climate is naturally changing. Assuming the sample reflects the nationwide opinion, that means that more than 70,000 teachers allow their students to discuss the possibility that global warming is not man-made.
    The remaining 5% chose to avoid the subject altogether.
     
  11. myark
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    Yob must be the 8% = a major minority "climate change are natural changes in the environment which is not human caused ;)
     
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    Where you are, myark, I don't know if you have political diversity, or just one party line (Stalin:"it matters not who they vote for. They vote for US!").

    In the USA diversity is EVERYTHING! From food, to fashion, to music, to religion, to politics. And AGW is split EACTLY along party lines.
    Liberals (socialists) believe in AGW, and conservatives do not.
    I'm not talking about climate change. I'm talking about ANTHROPOGENIC, man caused, the A in AGW.
    Conservatives don't believe man is responsible for global warming or climate change!

    When the issue is divided EXACTLY along political philosophy lines?
    It's politics!
    Not science, but politics.
    The few hundred working climatologists you claim a 97% of endorse AGW, are probably 97% socialist in their politics.
    You won't find many conservative EPA agents either!
    If you can't talk the talk, (with fervor and enthusiasm) you won't get hired!
     
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    https://usapartisan.com/2016/01/08/...us-but-you-wouldnt-know-it-from-the-headline/

    "Poll: 73% of Americans reject so-called AGW consensus (but you wouldn’t know it from the headline)"


    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/...gw-but-you-wouldnt-know-it-from-the-headline/

    "Poll: 73% of Americans reject so-called AGW consensus (but you wouldn’t know it from the headline)
    David Middleton / January 6, 2016

    Guest post by David Middleton

    From The Hill…

    Poll: 70 percent believe in climate change

    By Timothy Cama – 01/05/16 10:41 AM EST



    A new survey finds that 70 percent of Americans believe the climate is changing.

    The poll from Monmouth University, released Tuesday, found a stark partisan divide on most issues surrounding climate change, including whether it is happening, how serious it is and what should be done about it.

    The research, conducted mostly before nearly 200 nations voted last month in Paris on an international climate accord, found that Democrats (63 percent) are much more likely than Republicans (18 percent) to see climate change as a very serious issue.

    The poll provides another piece of support for actions internationally and by President Obama to fight climate change. Obama’s main climate policy, contentious new limits on carbon emissions from power plants, is due to be litigated this year in federal courts.

    But the support is complicated. Pollsters found that only 27 percent of respondents agree with the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activity is the main cause of climate change.

    […]

    http://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...-70-percent-believe-in-climate-change?ref=yfp



    Wow! 70% of Americans believe in climate change!!! That’s as astonishing as saying that they believe in weather!!!

    This is the real story:

    “Pollsters found that only 27 percent of respondents agree with the overwhelming marginal scientific consensus that human activity is the main cause of climate change.”


    ClimatePoll

    Monmouth University Poll

    100% – 27% = 73%

    So, 73% of Americans reject the 52% consensus."


    Go try to twist their words around.
    You don't have the talent, bud!
    You're a one-legged man in an arse kicking contest!


    Oh, I'm STILL part of the 73% in these headlines, articles, and poll.

    Now, go soak your head!
    I'm sure it hurts after such heavy reading.
     
  14. myark
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    Yob does not know how to read a simple picture poll he presented and ticked all the boxes including humans are equally responsible for global warming too cheat and deceive the percentage dishonestly in his favor and has now just done this again by using the consensus % which is another issue he is deceiving like does all issues in his endless rants that in the end it still came the majority believe humans or are equally reasonable for climate change ;)
    Yobs choice in the polls he stupidly presented is "climate change are natural changes in the environment which is not human caused" at just a 8% major minority.;)
     

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    Guys, let's please keep this thread about ocean news. It would be better to direct political arguments or arguing just for the sake of arguing to another venue. Let's please keep the thread friendly and polite to others. Thank you.
     
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