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With just the simplest of searches, just about anybody you quote turns out to be some wack job. You call us paranoid but it's you that is swamped with conspiracies and delusional beliefs. On the Wooden Boat forum, they call it the Celebration of Stupid.

 

I'm aware of Roods frailties and errors and wasn't suggesting anyone follow him.
The site of Sodom/Gomorrah exists and covered with brimstone just as seen in the film.

 

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http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jan/26/henry-rollins-environment-he-never-died

Henry Rollins: ‘Our species is a ruinous pain in the ***’

It is often exceedingly difficult for me to hang in there with our species. We really are quite awful when you come to think of it. I like you but not us. There are a lot of living things on the planet – for now. Perhaps the most ill-suited for existence would be our species.

Wait, there’s more. So dipped in arrogance are we that we are convinced that our rightful place is atop the food chain, and that the planet is ours to ransack and divest of its treasure because, after all, it was all put here for us by the Big Guy. All these beautiful animals are ours to slaughter. The oceans are huge, specifically to hold all the carbon dioxide we emit. Photosynthesis, nature’s amazing oxygen maker, is a leftist, socialist fallacy, probably injected into the global conversation by a spin doctor in the White House. It is obvious that if trees are sacrificed for financial progress and levels of phytoplankton – responsible for half of the planet’s photosynthesis – are decreasing at an alarming rate, then we will still be OK because humans have no effect on any of the planet’s mechanics. That is to say, global climate change is just so much coffee house, pseudo-intellectual (communist) piffle.

Does it seem like I’m saying that the human race is doomed? We are, absolutely, but take heart, there are at least two reasons not to despair right now: it will still take a while and thousands of other species will be dying off as well, so at least we won’t be lonely or feel foolish. Our corpses will be exploding in the sun along with other creatures both domestic and exotic

 

If human beings are so horrible, and I believe that is exactly your true feelings, then you could easily remove one pest, and only one. Eliminate yourself, human hater!

 

Climate change: Ocean warming underestimated

 

1 millimeter= 0.03937007874 of an inch.
Roughly 4/100s of an inch, and not uniform across all coasts.
Raises several questions.
How can they be certain of sea level, that such an insignificant measurement is accurate, which would require a micrometer to measure a piece of rigid metal in a machine shop?
" Alright ocean, freeze and put your hands up, we intend to measure you!" Woops! It expands when it turns to ice! "Okay, stay liquid but don't move a hair!"
And since the incremental increase is tiny, it's also slow. So how can they assume it will still be warming 25 years in the future, or 50, or 100?
Temperatures aren't increasing except by similar insignificant fractions of a degree.
Strong case can be made, based on observed trend, we are cresting the hill of this millennia's warm period.
And of course, natural warming is occurring, as it cyclic has/does every thousand years.
Since it can't be man caused, I've shown in earlier posts, it seems ridiculous to expect man could stop it.
So, other than an obsession with minutia, what is the point of the alarmism over a millimeter sea rise?
That is, if it's accurate and true.
The BIGGEST question is, how do you justify all the effort and expense devoted to arcane insignificant studies of minute changes in climate, when a myriad more pressing problems confront us?

 

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

 

Not to fail to mention that the water is always sloshing about, even the frozen variety, due to the phases of the Sun and the Moon. Full Moon this month does not clear the horizon at the same time as the Full Moon next month, so even phases vary from month to month. How can anyone expect such accuracy in the face of such difficulty, much less precision? Even the ground on which we stand is affected by the tidal pull. The ensuing friction keeps the magma hot and in motion.

 

http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/global-warming-causes-global-spending-follow-the-money-video/
"Global warming causes, when you follow the money, are shown to be nothing but political excuses to waste trillions in unnecessary global spending. Billions of those tax dollars are taken from an unsuspecting public, then given – tax-free – to the global warming gurus who keep the lie going; so it really should come as no surprise that those very gurus do all they can to keep their cash-cow alive and kicking. Some estimates put the spending on global warming causes at one billion dollars a day.

Governments around the world, at the behest of the U.N., spend vast amounts of money on a problem which only exists in computer models. Climate change research has become big business; driven by political ideology and greed, instead of a quest for truth. There are reams of real-world data available which effortlessly debunk the myth of climate change. However; if it is ever mentioned publicly, the data is laughed off as conspiracy theory “denial,” obviously being spread by agents of Big Energy."

So I suggest all this billion dollars a day funding be immediately re-diverted to alternative energy research!
Everybody will be happier with clean cheap energy sources.
And a billion a day added to R and D in clean energy, might produce results!

In 2009, the USA spent 56 billion on defense, the largest part of the budget.
A billion a day for R and D is 7 times the US defense budget, which itself is enormous!
What do you say?
Re-focus on the problem and abandon the expensive search for propaganda data!

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/money-for-science/

 

I wasn't counseling suicide. Never!
I was pointing out the glaring error in such a hateful philosophy.
If you hate your own kind, it MUST include self hate!
I was trying to encourage re-evaluation of worldview.
I wasn't at all worried, Myark would take it as a recommendation and act upon it.
Reverse psychology!
myark would never consider doing ANYTHING he thought I suggested!
Which means he won't re-evaluate his philosophy either1
Oh well.

 

I did not mean to scold you. They make me so angry I have to remind myself that I am as flawed as they are. We have to love them but it ain't easy.

 

Because Samsam sought to diminish credibility in my refutation of Irrational Numbers false claim there was no evidence for a Sodom and Gomorrah supernatural destruction, I've since been looking for a more acceptable spokesman, though the visual evidence eloquently speaks for itself. Regardless of your opinion of the narrator.
So, a bit tardy, but I wanted to be thorough, I refute Samsam's post:

Two first century witnesses to the ASH remains of Sodom and Gomorrah, already 2500 years ancient and still visible in their time.

"During the first century, the Jewish historian Josephus recorded their visible existence in his day – “Now this country is then so sadly burnt up, that nobody cares to come at it . . . It was of old a most happy land, both for the fruits it bore and the riches of its cities, although it be now all burnt up. It is related how for the impiety of its inhabitants, it was burned by lightning; in consequence of which there are still the remainders of the divine fire; and the traces of the five cities are still to be seen.” (Josephus in his “Wars Of The Jews”, Book IV, Chapter VIII) "

“And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;” https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Peter-2-6/

So why aren't archaeologists excavating this ash and brimstone site?
Instead, they excavate tells and discover buried stone ruins of ancient foundations they speculate might have been Sodom.
Why?
One, they either didn't do their homework very well or ultimately rejected it.
Archaeologists usually seek to uncover stone and pottery and other artifacts.
No fun digging in ashes where even the stone burned to ash!
Not going to find artifacts, not even stone, just ashes.
It's a good thing, because digging would destroy the crumbly ash structures.
The ash structures are huge, monumental, monolithic, geometric ash forms.
Over areas equal to several large cities.
I wonder what could have deposited this non-volcanic ash in such huge forms, in this historically correct location, if they are NOT the 4500 year old, bronze age destroyed cities of the plain?
SOMETHING huge burned fiercely! Burned up the stones, too! Utterly destroyed!
Another mystery! Why do you think these relatively fragile ash structures could be visible and unburied throughout millennia, when ancient but newer iron age cities of stone lie buried? And the archaeologists uninterested in them?
Protective magic spell? (non-believer concept)

 

It's patently obvious how you figure. You take a vague

as a "fact" for what is spent on GW, and understate by a factor of 10 the amount spent on defense, and then compare the two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_federal_budget

You're only foolin' fools.

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I just realized your

doesn't even say where that supposed money comes from. Maybe it's not from the USA, but from all countries in the world..?

 

I got the 56 billion from the Scientific American website, http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/money-for-science/
I posted in the post you take exception to.
And yes, the billion per day is world wide, as is obvious in the quote posted.

"Some estimates put the spending on global warming causes at one billion dollars a day.
Governments around the world, at the behest of the U.N., spend vast amounts of money "

Blame Scientific American if you want to, and you can tout Wikipedia a greater authority, if you want to.


Anyway, what is a better use of the money, trying to find cleaner cheaper energy, thru R&D? Or trying to prove a sealevel rise of a few hundredths of an inch in some part of the world, but not entire world as a...what? A justification for demanding taxes on carbon?

What is of REAL importance and benefit, and what is IMAGINED important but detrimental, seems difficult to assess for some folks!

 

With the rising oceans, its the children I worry about.

Theyre going to drown first !!