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  1. Yobarnacle
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    Capitalism isn't what made America successful. Individualism did. Individual rights more powerful than the government and the restricted limited government forbidden to mess with our rights. Human rights, not dispensed by government but inherent because we are human.
    Those rights are lately being eroded as government usurps more power.
     
  2. ImaginaryNumber
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    Humans are very social and group oriented. Cooperation is essential to our survival and to our success as a species. A good way to punish an uncooperative group member is to ostracize them. An ostracized person will find life very difficult, if not impossible, unless they can find another group that they can become a cooperating member of. Individualism is a myth promoted by childish superhero movies and fantasy books, etc.
     
  3. Yobarnacle
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    You are so wrong
     
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    Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today

    From a trove of internal Exxon documents, a narrative emerged in 2015 that put a spotlight on the conduct of the fossil fuel industry. An investigative series of stories by InsideClimate News, and later the Los Angeles Times, disclosed that the oil company understood the science of global warming, predicted its catastrophic consequences, and then spent millions to promote misinformation.

    Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today https://insideclimatenews.org/news/04042018/climate-change-fossil-fuel-company-lawsuits-timeline-exxon-children-california-cities-attorney-general

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  5. Eric ruttan
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    I suggest caution here. The individualism trope is well tied to majority beliefs and white supremisist ideals.

    For the reader, "the myth of individualism" is a searchable phrase to inform oneself on the topic. And build context for ImaginaryNumber 's post.
     
  6. Yobarnacle
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    Lol, trope?
    Tripe!
    The natural, traditional, provable human social organization is the family. To that extent humans are social animals. Extended family becomes tribe. But it's not an universal desire to be part of a tribe.
    Cities/states? Are definitely not formed because of desire for millions of friends.
    Most common reason for individuals and families, moving to a city, is seeking work.
    For commercial enterprise, it's seeking customers and employees.
    For politicians, criminals, and other parasites, the city is a human mine, a victim resource
    The rich are attracted to the nightlife.
    The timid, want to hide behind city walls, which proved ineffective and are no longer constructed.
    The hounded, seek the anonymity of crowds.

    The self reliant and intrepid, seek open spaces and abhor living in a hornet nest!
    These individuals are the salt of the earth. The sparsely populated small towns and countryside, the pool innovators and great influential persons are incubated in.

    Original thought, is an individual exercise. Not a group think. The IQ of a mob, is abysmal!

    Government is created not to give us stuff, but to protect our rights and liberty. No other reason.

    And, pertinent to the purpose of this forum, why do so many dream of boats and sailing away solo or with a small family aboard?

    I believe the question stimulates the correct answers in your unique individual minds.
     
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  7. Yobarnacle
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    I searched it!

    Is America an individualistic culture?
    • America is a good example of an individualistic culture. Most Americans are only interested in advancement and the prospering of themselves. The main goal is to become financially independent and to acquire possessions. The reason this happens is because of how Americans live.
    Individualistic Culture | Knowledge Galaxy
    knowledgegalaxy.net/individualistic_culture/individualistic_culture.html
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    How is America individualistic?

    • America was built with the intention of being an individualist culture, however, it seems to be faced with a societal conflict that it has been battling for centuries. The conflict revolves around individualism vs. collectivism. Individualism is the principle of being independent and self-reliant.
    America's \"Individualistic\" Society - Odyssey
    www.theodysseyonline.com/americas-individualistic-society
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    Is the US individualistic?

    • Individualism is a core of American culture and the main value in America. It has been influencing all the fields of society, economics, politics and culture. It has played an enormous and far-reaching effect to shape the character of the American nation.
    An Analysis of American Individualism Culture – haosuyawen
    haosuyawen.wordpress.com/2015/02/19/an-analysis-of-american-individualism-culture/


    That's a highly visible, realistic appearing MYTH!
    Collectivists, of which socialism is only one of it's forms and AGW one of it's stratagems, seeks to radically change American culture.
    No thanks!
     
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  8. ImaginaryNumber
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    Who was it who said "You are so wrong?" <LAUGH>

    Two-Thirds of Americans Think Government Should Do More on Climate
    Sounds like some version of democratic socialism (e.g. cooperation) is alive and well.
     
  9. Yobarnacle
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    Yeah? How people respond to polls is not indicative of how they vote.
    A scant four years ago, highly respected, reliable polls assured everyone, we would soon seat our first female president.
    Roflmao! I've nothing against a woman becoming president. But the credibility of polls? Their facade needs urgent restoration!

    Actually, I suspect they're becoming worse at sampling a true cross section of citizenry!
     
  10. ImaginaryNumber
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    HRC handily won the popular vote. Just before the election the polls were in fact saying the race was very close.

    Nearly 20 Swing State Polls Were Released Today–Biden Leads In All Of Them
     
  11. Yobarnacle
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    Handily? HRC did not win a majority of the popular vote, she won a plurality. More than trump, but less than 50%.
    It matters not. Popular vote doesn't elect presidents. Electoral College votes do.
     
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    A II no senior member → youtu.be/oNjQXmoxiQ8 → I wish

    Slow down please, I can't keep up . . :eek: - Storm Tactics !

     
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  13. Yobarnacle
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    Planning on becoming a Hurricane hunter, A II? Like those planes that deliberately fly into storm to gather data?
    i recommend a nice buttery Chardonnay consumed with some careful reflection on the hazards!
     
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    A II no senior member → youtu.be/oNjQXmoxiQ8 → I wish

    With the current speed we might get pitchpoled stern over bow, like Susie Goodall, better reduce the hazards a bit beforehand . . :eek:

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  15. Yobarnacle
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    Pitchpoling! That's always a danger in heavy weather of running with the seas. It's the most comfortable ride, and so seems preferable.
    Heaving to, is uncomfortable, but safer. Straps and seat-belts everywhere, in the bunks as well, will prevent most "rattling maracas" type injuries.
    Sit, lie down, but move around as little as possible. If moving is necessary, scoot around on your bottom. Shorter distance to fall, and more stability contacts with the deck.
    Most shipboard accidents, even aboard large vessels, are slips, trips, and falls. Heavy weather increases the dangers.
     
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