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  1. hoytedow
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    Just as he did with every other department in the US government, Obama fundamentally transformed NASA. I no longer find it credible as it is now also run by a politically left-wing hack.
     
  2. SamSam
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    True to his character, the Grabbenfuhrer continues walking out on the vows he made to the clodhoppers to get elected. We all see where the swamp creatures went, and it's obvious even to the insane whose treasonous butt buddy he is. It's now becoming clear he's not actually a denier, just greedy. His point of reference is IGMFY, his concerns over AGW aren't about facts, but money.

    It will be interesting watching the base realize how deeply they've been duped.

    Aside from that, I think it's unproductive to keep arguing the facts to those who won't accept reality.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38640413
     
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    I'd like to make a book on the bets for 2017 setting a fourth consecutive average temperature record, and email every climate change nayayer for their piece of the action. Up or Down, I'd get rich :)
     
  5. ImaginaryNumber
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    ImaginaryNumber Imaginary Member

    I'll place my bet that 2017 won't be as warm as 2016.

    As SamSam mentioned, NASA and NOAA have come out with their annual global temperature report, and for a third year in a row temperatures have set new high records. Furthermore, eight successive months (January through August) were individually the warmest since the agency’s records began in 1880.

    U.S. scientists officially declare 2016 the hottest year on record. That makes three in a row. | Washington Post

    However, they also say that the El Nino we've had over the last few years has contributed 1/4 to 1/3 of these record-setting temperatures. And since El Nino has now subsided we are unlikely to break 2016's record in 2017.

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  6. WestVanHan
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    "A rhetorical question is a question that you ask without expecting an answer. The question might be one that does not have an answer. It might also be one that has an obvious answer but you have asked the question to make a point, to persuade or for literary effect."

    That was the point of my post: that long chart that was posted (and every other climate graph) predicts huge increases in temperature......by comparing it with history. And supposedly accurate to within .1 of a degree
    Hardly a logical approach,indeed.

    BTW I had looked it up the theories,and it's full of so many holes as to be laughable.
    But that's neither here nor there-but what is very interesting and telling is in the link you kindly posted:

    Most clear are the regular oscillations of the glacial ice volume which follows small changes to Earth's orbit around the Sun
     
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  7. ImaginaryNumber
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    Yes, the solar Milankovitch cycles appear to explain the glacial cycles for the last million years.

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    http://www.azimuthproject.org/azimuth/show/Milankovitch cycle

    What the Milankovitch cycles don't explain is why, over the last hundred years, greenhouse gas concentrations have been rising dramatically, and why temperatures have also been rising.

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    http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/milankovitch-cycles

    Please note that if average temperatures were 3°C cooler than they were in the 1800s we'd be in the depths of a glacial period. We are now 1°C warmer than the 1800s. The recent international Paris agreements set a desired goal of 1.5°C, and a maximum goal of 2°C above 1800s temperatures. So far the greenhouse gas reduction pledges that have been made are nowhere near sufficient to hold temperatures at 2°C, to say nothing of 1.5°C. If temperatures are allowed to increase by 3°C or 4°C we will be in [​IMG] trouble.
     
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    Don't worry. It won't.
     
  10. ImaginaryNumber
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    How NASA Knows 2016 Was the Hottest Year | Space.com
     
  11. hoytedow
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    I find it amusing that the hockey stick coincides with the Obama years.
     
  12. ImaginaryNumber
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    Michael Mann's Hockey Stick is generally considered to have started around the mid-1800s.

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    The original northern hemisphere hockey stick graph of Mann, Bradley & Hughes 1999, smoothed curve shown in blue with its uncertainty range in light blue, overlaid with green dots showing the 30-year global average of the PAGES 2k Consortium 2013 reconstruction. The red curve shows measured global mean temperature, according to HadCRUT4 data from 1850 to 2013.
     
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    Hockey stick handle is crooked like it has been broken and duct taped back together. It figures.
     
  14. SamSam
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    Sometimes in the "comments" section at the end of articles, you'll see comments that have nothing to do with anything other than to direct you somewhere else. They usually say things like "I was amazed that I could make $9,000 a week sitting on my butt, you can too..." etc.

    Has anyone ever clicked on the links supplied? I haven't. Are they offers to make $XXX a day by being an internet troll? Paid to disrupt any intelligent discussions on varied topics such as politics, environmental issues, or as here, ocean news/global warming? Paid to continuously interject inane, ignorant comments to disrupt the discussion?

    I realize some are *** holes on their own time, with nothing to do, happily trolling away while humming "I Gotta Be Me", but there just seems to be too many for them to all be voluntarily posting.

    What's the pay scale for being an internet troll?
     

  15. ImaginaryNumber
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    ImaginaryNumber Imaginary Member

    There is an ever-increasing amount of egg available for Deniers to smear on their faces. Feel free to apply liberally.

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