ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

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  1. mydauphin
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    The reason New Orleans is sinking... It was built on a swamp. New Orleans has been sinking since the day they started building it over 200 Y.eats ago. Check your history
     
  2. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    the EPA needs controls on it. Or outright disbanding. It's the most corrupt bureau in the government. From PERSONAL experience!
     
  3. troy2000
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    Maybe you missed my point? Pooh-poohing today's short-term changes by saying bigger changes have occurred over thousands or millions of years, and therefore there's no point in trying to do anything about today's rise in CO2, is as irrational a leap as saying people die of old age all the time, so it's natural for children to die too and there's no point in trying to cure them.

    Change over eons is one bookend of a pair of irrelevant arguments that skeptics love to bracket the subject with. The other end is the Rush Limbaugh ditto-head argument: 'I stepped outside to get the paper this morning, and dang near froze my butt off. So where's all this bs global warming them liberal socialists and America haters been carryin' on about?"
     
  4. troy2000
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    Unfortunately, memories of your personal experience are filtered through your personal prejudices, preconceptions, narrow perspectives, and diffuse but tangible resentment of authority in general. So they're hardly a reliable guide.....

    Like any other organization, particularly regulatory ones, it's easy to come up with horror stories about the EPA. But that hardly proves that on the whole it hasn't done more good than bad.

    I'll meet you sort of halfway on this one though; the EPA does need controls. It gets carried away sometimes. Unfortunately, the 'controls' its opponents want to impose would be a complete emasculation instead.
     
  5. Yobarnacle
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    the EPA decided they were ECO-POLICE. Who gave them that mandate?
    The FBI and the BATFE are enough 'Federal 'police. But, the EPA and the airport security and god knows what else.
    There was HUGE outcry at the formation of the FBI that we'd become a police state. tatah! EPA!
     
  6. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    The problem with AGW isn't that things are warming up. It's that those who believe in AGW BELIEVE CO2 just HAS to be bad. They keep looking to prove it's bad somewhere, since the temperatures didn't rise as predicted. So now it';s 'Climate Change" instead og 'Global Warming". They'll find SOME reason CO2 is doing damage.
    But since it's based on CO2 MUST be bad somehow, I don't believe a word of their propaganda. It's agenda driven on CO2 HAS to be BAD! Silly! And not scientific. gag, cough, spit. I'm disgusted with CO2 alarmists.
     
  7. troy2000
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    Ummm.... Congress gave them that mandate; they're the Environmental Protection Agency. How could they protect anything, if they were given no authority?

    The FBI was formed because it was needed. The system it replaced (hiring private agents on an as-needed basis, and having them report directly to the head of the Secret Service) was an expensive, inefficient, piecemeal approach that wasn't working well then, and would be basically useless today.
     
  8. troy2000
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    Looks like the Supreme Court and at least one federal appeals court are part of the conspiracy.... or are all those SCOTUS justices and federal judges just plain stupid?:confused:
     
  9. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    Well, we need to throw a WHOLE bunch of folks OUT in the street WITHOUT pensions.
    Now who can we elect thats got that kinda cohones?

    november there will be a house cleaning, but not enough1 I'm PISSED OFF!
    and intend to encourage fellow americans to take our country back!
     
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    I'd like to take Yobarnacle's pension and apply it to study global warming :D :D :D
     
  11. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    If someone tried, I wouldn't shoot them. Justice would be better served if they were...Buried ALIVE . :D
     
  12. Frosty

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    Lot of talk here on USA politics but in Uk the government is proposing cancellation of all pensions of those that dont need it. And the one I like is cancellation of child benefit over 3 kids.. We have girls in UK popping them out, earning thousands per week.

    This is also motivated by the Ilsamists wanting to take over the country and we will be paying for it.
     
  13. Yobarnacle
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    we have welfare scammers in the states alsoi. the case workers let it slide because if they throw the mnom off the roll, the kids suffer. it's a vicious multi generational cycle. the churches historically helped those folks they KNEW needed it. when the govt gets involved, it's invariably a fubar mess!

    Also there has been talk for several years about stopping double dippers. Those who retire on a govt pension AND collect social security.
    Personally, I think govt employees shouldn't HAVE pensions except military. Very few private sector jobs have pensions.
    Let them salt money in a 401K like the rest of us, with some profit sharing. If the budget is balanced? They get some matching 401K dollars. If theres a deficit? Tough tuttie! :)
     
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    Makepensions and other payments "Means Tested" - - in part it is done here on OZ, and as an ex serviceman, they even cut my pension because I was "DEEMED" to have other assets... "The world is going to hell in a handbasket"....... and this bloody Toshiba Satellite Pro is playong up AGAIN... ETF...

    Time for the second coming or a MAD exchange, Oh for the simpler life - no passports, no borders, no paper currency, - then all the parasites would eventually die of starvation, and the world could go into self recovery mode - - ready to cope with the next onslaught of the next dominant species....
     

  15. Frosty

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    You mean like Star Trek.

    The crew of Enterprise got paid in credits, I guess they used some electronic purchases. Bit like a credit card.

    I chip under the skin like a dog and we are there.

    There is no borders in Europe. Its more difficult to get out than get in.
     
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