ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

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  1. ImaginaryNumber
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    From your question I'm not certain if you are asking how the mass of planets is determined, or whether you are mixing up the concept of weight with that of mass?

    Weight changes depending on the gravitational field you are in -- i.e. more if you are standing on Earth, less if standing on the Moon, and approaching zero if you are "in space". However, your mass would be the same regardless if you were on Earth, on the Moon, or "in space".

    How do scientists measure or calculate the weight of a planet?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_mass
     
  2. Yobarnacle
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    imaginarynumber is quibbling over semantics because he can't effectively argue for social change that ain't gonna happen.

    he thinks because he's socialist, that he is smarter and better educated.

    nope

    and jupiter is many times larger than the earth...
    and our atmosphere is many times larger than our oceans
    and co2 is measured in parts per million and only a small % of the atmospheric co2 is manmade.
    the world is huge.
    try crossing one of our oceans at 7 knots and get impressed with how large the world is, and how small you are! :)
     
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    Compare the size of a virus with that of a person, and try telling me it's too small to have any effect on anyone.
     
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    Troy
    that's probably the BEST argument I've read here.

    but..
    what's the cure?

    amputation of freedoms?

    i want other opinions before such a drastic remedy! :)
     
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    Whether or not one can accurately express a concept often is related to whether on not one accurately understands the concept. It appears to me that your frequent inaccurate comments reflects your frequent inaccurate understanding.


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    http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm
     
  6. ImaginaryNumber
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    Which is more important to you:

    Preserving your "freedoms" for the remaining decade or two you have left to live, or passing on a tolerable world to your children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren?
     
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    Passing on FREEDOM to my offspring.
    They'll survive fine if allowed to work out their problems themselves, and not be saddled with overbearing, over expensive, over intrusive goverment!
     
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    maxxxlogan The Nutty Engineer....

    Ask a long range shooter, high humidity is a good thing, less bullet drag.
     
  10. powerabout
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    hadnt thought of that one
     
  11. ImaginaryNumber
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    I’m definitely not smarter. At age 43, after a couple of failed starts, I finally was awarded a college degree. I received decent grades, but compared to the work put in by my classmates I had to bust my butt to get them.

    As for being better educated, like Troy mentioned here, I’d not given much thought to AGW until bumping into the topic on this forum. I then began doing a lot of reading, and started posting what I was finding. In the last year I’ve posted excerpts of hundreds of articles on Global Warming. I’m confident that they represent the best journalism on the topic that is accessible to the average layman (and I consider myself to be an average layman). If you’ve read all the articles and still remain unconvinced, then probably nothing will convince you until either the ocean starts washing in through your front door, or you can fry an egg on the sidewalk in January. By then it will be far to late to do anything about it except try to move to a more hospitable location – you and seven billion other people.

    You seem very concerned about your freedoms, but most folks are willing to temporarily reduce their freedoms in time of war in anticipation of getting them back for a longer period of time after hostilities cease. Many feel that such an attitude is what is needed now if AGW is to be fought and conquered.

    If you really make $500 per day, as you claim, and if you’ve already substantially diminished your carbon footprint, as you say, and if you really believe what the Bible says, as you assert, than a carbon tax should have minimal impact on your lifestyle, and you should be a willing supporter for the long-term good of the whole world.
     
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    what the connection between carbon tax ( permit to pollute)and help prevent AGW
    We had the EPA to clean up the world what happened to their role?

    Oh my mistake all the governments are broke so they dont want you to clean up just pay for the permit


    PS yes Offshore guys make USD500+ all over the world except US nationals pay tax on that and the rest dont , whats really cruel is a foreigner in the GoM can take that money and still pay no tax
     
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    Think Progress -- In-Depth Analysis: How A Progressive Carbon Tax Will Fight Climate Change And Stimulate The Economy
     
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    NEW YORK TIMES | In Energy Taxes, Tools to Help Tackle Climate Change
     

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    Bloomberg -- Four Feasible Ways Obama Can Work on Climate Change

     
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