ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

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  1. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    AGW/ACC is just another religion.
     
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    More on Brown's supposed willingness to debate, and his supposed inability to find any opponents, can be found here: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/wbrown2.html

     
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    Google "air pollution and cancer" - stuff global warming - that stuff will kill you!
     
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    I googled as directed. Interesting and believable stuff, although the increased risk of cancer from air pollution still seems to be only a fraction of the risk from smoking. But I found an encouraging factoid in the first article I read:

    I remember the first time I moved into the Los Angeles area in the seventies: smog was so bad sometimes that it was hard to read freeway signs through the swirling brown haze. It isn't like that now, even though there are a lot more people and cars.
     
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    I wonder what this thread has to do with "Boatdesign Forums?"

    Nothing personal, but why not discuss here presidential candidates and/or health of Nelson Mandela?
     
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    The thread's original subject was whether ocean conditions are changing because of global warming, AGW, climate change, or whatever you want to call it. That's obviously relevant to a boat forum.

    So why is it still here, after veering all over the place? Probably because we have a fairly patient and tolerant moderator. And it's possible he leaves it open partly as a sort of reservation or playpen, where people can amuse themselves arguing without disturbing the rest of the forum....;)
     
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    Thanks Troy. I fear this discussion is not the most productive because those with opposing views on the overall issue of "climate shift" are so polarized and steadfast in their positions already at this point that increasing volume of the same general type of observation doesn't seem likely to change anyone's mind at this point. On the other hand, the overall premise of a thread on how ocean conditions are changing due to climate shift did seem to be relevant to those interested in boats.
     
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    Respectfully, I don't think climate shift will have much impact on boating on the macro level. When Yellowstone blows it will cause both climate shift and have an impact on boating, flying, driving and traveling by ox-cart. Polar shift would have immediate and seriously devastating consequences on boating. Talk about polarized.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_hypothesis
     
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    HUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Just a bit of sea level rise on the east coast of the US plus a couple nice climate change hurricanes will wipe out boating.

    If water temp raises a degree in areas like the Chesapeake bay it will turn into a oxygen free dead zone , a slime patch.
     
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    There is an area near Chesapeake Bay that is already a slime patch, but the slime lives in expensive houses and loves to spend other people's money.
     
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    I appreciate the moderator's tolerance of this thread. Obviously, I feel that climate change is relevant, even urgent. Equally obvious, others think it is boring and irrelevant. It's puzzling why the later bother reading the thread, to say nothing of posting on it?

    This thread typically receives between 100 and 700 views per day. In the last 24 hours it's had over 300 views. Since only a relatively few people post on the thread, it's only a guess what motivates the non-posting viewers. Perhaps some just check out the thread just to see if there's been a "train wreck". But I'd like to think that some viewers are honestly interested in the topic of AGW, and find the discussions and news article excerpts useful in some way.

    I've been posting news articles on this thread for the better part of a year now. It's taken a moderate amount of my time. If the primary readers of those articles are folks like Hoyt, kvsgkvng, J Feenstra, Alex.A and micah719 then maybe it is time to move on.
     
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    THE TELEGRAPH (UK) | Schools should be 'retrofitted' to cope with climate change

     
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    THE INDEPENDENT (UK) | Climate change will bring greater extremes in weather, warns Government's chief scientific adviser

     

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    NBC NEWS – Politics | Senate energy and climate change votes point to EPA as key decider

     
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