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The three primary repositories and analyzers of global climatic data are NOAA and NASA in the U.S, and the Climatic Research Unit - University of East Anglia in the U.K. These links should get you started:

Climatic Research Unit
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/data

NOAA
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/climatedata.html

NASA
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/

I think you will soon understand why we non-scientists must rely on scientists to analyze raw climatic data, just as we car drivers rely on Civil Engineers to interpret stress and strain data for concrete and steel when they build bridges, etc.

 

Nope not dry rot for me. But you must be careful of it if you are a blockhead. Stay away from wood bits for they can be very boring.

 

Mostly when they collapses

 

Civil engineers build targets. Mechanical engineers build weapons.

 

Petros, get real. I'm not a climatologist; neither are you. Obviously I'm not going to provide you with the raw data that the professionals have been compiling, sorting, analyzing and drawing conclusions from for years now.

The sort of sound-bite instant truth and simple proof you apparently think I should have at my fingertips only exists in the imagination of deniers. Reality is more complicated than that....

But ImaginaryNumber has responded to you with enough legitimate links to keep you busy for a while. Unless you just reject it all out of hand -- which I expect you to do, since your demands for data were a rhetorical device instead of a genuine request for information.

 

You left out manipulating, distorting, lying

 

In other words, you've decided that anything you disagree with on the subject must be a lie.

 

The stolen/hacked emails in East Anglia proved they lied. It shows a behavioral pattern across many emails.

 

Those emails show no such thing. they were a handful of emails cherry-picked out of tens of thousands of them stretching over years, taken out of context and presented by the hackers as though they were typical of all those thousands of emails.

There were eight major investigations, including: House of Commons Science and Technology Committee (UK); Independent Climate Change Review (UK); International Science Assessment Panel (UK); Pennsylvania State University first panel and second panel (US); United States Environmental Protection Agency (US); Department of Commerce (US); National Science Foundation (US).

None of them uncovered any scientific misconduct or fraud. But again: instead of believing those eight investigations by reputable agencies, you're going to believe the anonymous hackers -- because they're the ones saying what you want to hear.

 

As you admit, the emails showed proof of manipulation and distortion of data over many years.

 

I clicked on all the links to find data that goes back to the last ice age, older would be better, but none of was there. NOT A SINGLE ONE. So again I ask where is the data?

Here are a few interesting ones I did find, but they only go back about 1k years.

here is some graphs from the links Imaginary Number put up, from NASA and ICCC.

This is from 1750 to 1975;



this one supposed to show how the medieval warming was overstated, good thing we have experts to tell us what this means. I find it difficult to see the effects of humans in the last 100 years:



still looking for long term data, where is the data?

 

Petros,

As I understand it, the temperature data sets of the last few hundred years are derived from thermometer readings. Those data sets are at NOAA and NASA, and the CRU. At the URL below, which I posted earlier, it appears that you can download the temperature data sets for a number of the temperature series. I’m sure there are other data sets elsewhere.

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/#datdow

The data sets available at CRU are:
CRUTEM4
CRUTEM3
HadCRUT3
HadSST2
HadCRUT4
HadSST3

These web pages will help you configure your computer analysis program to display the data downloaded:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/crutem3-station-data/
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/crutem4/station-data.htm

I never figured I could understand these data sets, so I’ve never tried downloading or analyzing them. Good luck.

For determining temperatures prior to the invention of the thermometer temperature proxies are used. For the last few thousand years this Wikipedia article on temperature records says that tree rings, ice cores, lake sediments and coral growth are used to determine temperatures.

As you can imagine, it is not a simple task to compile and correlate all the different data sets into a composite whole. As the image that you posted above shows --



or the one that I posted --



-- the various methods used to compile proxy temperature records don’t align perfectly, and so an average of all the methods is considered to be the “most likely” temperature, with an understanding that it is only an approximation.

You mentioned an interest in the temperature records from millions of years ago. I doubt that there is any single repository of data for them. Below are some URLs to peruse to get an idea of the temperature proxies used. Maybe they will be useful to you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene#Palaeocycles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen...on_between_isotopes_and_temperature.2Fweather
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliocene_climate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleothermometer

 

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