ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

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  1. hoytedow
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    People should perfect the management of their own lives before they attempt the management of the lives of others.
     
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    IMHO there are plenty of reasons the 2 are related
    you need to understands that collecting $2 in income and spending $3 is a problem

    you need to undertand what investment is

    dreamers try to make everybody happy all the time at any cost thats the polititians view but not the businessman

    Australia has a similar problem now the government is full of people that have never had a real job and they took over the reigns with a pile of cash and have turned it into a huge deficit no suprise there as it always happens.
     
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    Obama’s well-qualified cabinet: Conservatives hoaxed by “J. P. Morgan” chart that verifies prejudices
     
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    http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=54884

    very extensive post challenging the above 'facts'
    Businessweek: The Doctor Will See You?? In Three Months
    FactCheck.org: Cancer Rates and Unjustified Conclusions
    dailykos.com: Lies and the Lying Liars who Spam it
     
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    I'm not getting this
    for example
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    Secretary of Education Arne Duncan – Private sector experience: Yes, significant. 55% of cabinet with private sector experience, 9% without. Duncan earned Academic All-American honors in basketball at Harvard. His private sector is among the more unusual of any cabinet member’s, and more competitive. Duncan played professional basketball: “From 1987 to 1991, Duncan played professional basketball in Australia with the Eastside Spectres of the [Australian] National Basketball League, and while there, worked with children who were wards of the state. He also played with the Rhode Island Gulls and tried out for the New Jersey Jammers.” Since leaving basketball he’s worked in education, about four years in a private company aiming to improve education.

    And that is what you call private sector experience???
    Probably never signed a check in his life
    thats why the US is in trouble
     
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    I do see the people with blinkers on in the UK thinking they have a great medical system where they truly wait forever to get things done and they think if you fall down in the street in the US you get left there unless you have a platinum credit card.
    France also has a great system depending where you stand.
    You can go to 3 doctors in the same day and each doctor can prescribe 3 brands of what you need..of course they also have a money tree like all the other socialists in Europe.
    But they do seem to only just be learning that one day you have to pay back borrowed money and you cant borrow your way out of a debt problem, hello Enron
    As soon as Germany stop apologising to Europe and giving them handouts which is getting close, a dose of reality will start to bite in.
     
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    Governments have been run for thousands of years by people who weren't businessmen. When did being one suddenly become an essential requirement for office?

    Obviously, Romney and Ryan's private sector experience has done them little good when it comes to basic arithmetic: they're still claiming the antidote to collecting $2 in income and spending $3 is to start collecting $1.50 instead..... how does that work, exactly?
     
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    I agree. For example: considering he's on his fourth marriage, maybe Rush Limbaugh should just shut up and stop trying to tell us who should and shouldn't have a right to get married.
     
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    "Governments have been run for thousands of years by people who weren't businessmen. When did being one suddenly become an essential requirement for office?"
    easy
    DEBT
    When did the US start to run a debt fuelled government like many others and your grandchildren will be paying for the excesses of their parents/grandparents who have left them nothing but a lifetime of debt payments
    Was that happening for thousands of years no?
    This is all a product in the 1900's and getting worse and worse into 2000
    Every person entering the German workforce today knows 50% of the tax they will pay will only be used to pay pensions for retired people
    That was a quote from the youngest ever German to be elected to a political seat.
    Germany is far better off than most of the EU

    PS was it a good thing or a bad thing that your house price rose at 2 or 3 times above the rate of inflation considering it is probably the single largest cost you have?
    I guess you now know
     
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    Your post is bigger on hysteria than it is on history.... government debt and government manipulation of the economy have been around for probably as long as we've had governments. They aren't brand-new inventions. Frankly, I'm more worried about the drive to shift the burden of government onto the middle class, as exemplified by Ryan's determination to butcher Medicare and government services to pay for more tax cuts for the wealthy -- even though they're already paying the lowest effective rates in modern history.

    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about our house. Are you implying my wife and I got burned in the housing market somehow, when the SHTF in 2008? We didn't, you know; we're doing just fine.

    And by the way: if your logic were to hold true, we'd need a banker or a CFO in the White House, not a CEO....:)
     
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    middle class has always paid to run the government
    Unless you live somewhere like Saudi

    PS the banker CFO is the guy telling the Chief what the result of his actions might be no leader could survive without that and he he gets the wrong data and believes it you might just have a Greenspan/Bush with todays result
    Bill Clinton came in with great spending plans, was explained the facts of life by some bankers and luckily changed his mind as he learnt the big picture.
     
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    All orientations already have equal rights. I am a hetero but I still don't have the right to marry someone with the wrong plumbing. That is a good thing. USA all the way!

    Rush Limbaugh only says what I tell him to. :p
     
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    What does the plumbing have to do with it? People who are unable to have sex at all can still get married, can't they?

    Every argument that society has a vested interest in preventing gay marriage is untenable.

    Marriage is for procreation? Nope; sterile people and elderly people can still get married. Unlike some societies, they don't have to prove their fertility first.

    It destroys the sanctity of marriage? Baloney. What destroys the sanctity of marriage is people like Rush Limbaugh buying trophy wives who get tired of holding their noses and leave him -- and people like Brittney Spears getting married for a weekend in Vegas, then having the marriage annulled.

    It's a threat to the sexuality of our children? Come on; I doubt there's a child in the country who's ever said, "well, I was gonna go straight so I could get married. But now that I can be gay and have a fancy wedding too I'm gonna do that instead, 'cuz being queer is cool."

    In my opinion, they should split civil marriage and religious marriage. Since a civil marriage is primarily a legal partnership and financial contract, states should start issuing civil union certificates instead, without regard to sexuality.

    People who want to consider themselves married in the eyes of God, rather than in the eyes of the government, can have a religious wedding too -- or instead. End of problem, IMO.
     
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    "In my opinion, they should split civil marriage and religious marriage. Since a civil marriage is primarily a legal partnership and financial contract, states should start issuing civil union certificates instead, without regard to sexuality".

    great idea Troy
     

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    I knew if we kept going long enough we'd agree on something.... ;)
     
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