ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

Is Geoengineering the Answer to Climate Change?
Smithsonian Magazine|August 31, 2012

 

That's pure baloney, Hoyte. You can't blame BP's oil spill on Obama and the tree huggers. But it was a nice try....

Shallow water rigs produce a third of the oil in the Gulf, and two thirds of the natural gas. In fact, between July 2011 and February of 2112, 115 shallow-water drilling permits were approved and only 11 returned -- mostly for lack of necessary information, so they were probably approved eventually too.

Oil companies are drilling in deep water because there's money to be made out there, not because they've been forced out of shallow water.

 

Convenient to pick on BP as they are foreigners but it was what everyone in the oil industry knows as the GOM, where there are no rules and many workers cant read and write, the whole industry there is based on this.
What you can do there you cant do anywhere else in the world.
What caused Exxon Valdez issue...bad to no governance
Whats the common denominator here...
The IMO no
The Crew no
The Vessel builder no
The US government YES
Guys are building 230+' vessels that they have engineered to be only 99 GRT so no USCG inspection and unlicenced crew running them..think you could do that in any other country and run them out to oil rigs with supplies?
The USCG has created the 6000 ton licence so they dont need to employ unlimited masters on vessels over 3000grt..WTF?

 

Say what? I was pointing out that after BP created the worst oil spill in the history of the Gulf of Mexico, one of our Congressmen actually apologized, elaborately and at length, during a Congressional hearing -- because our President wanted the company to set aside money in escrow to pay for damages, so they couldn't weasel out of their responsibilities with bankruptcy, or some other legal/financial maneuvering.

I'm not sure what that has to do with them being foreigners. If I was picking on anyone it would be Congressman Barton, for the way he was publicly sucking up to their CEO during a Congressional hearing....

 

How will you like new carbon taxes in the USA to fight the illusion of global warming?

Will it push gasoline to over $6 a gallon when the pres is done?

I think carbon taxers will want this to give the government another way of stealing money from your pockets.

Long interesting article about what a second term means.

A relevant excerpt
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/06/18/120618fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all

 

i can't see congress passing a cap and trade bill. they have to go back home some time, and folks would be waiting for them.

 

don't fool with mother nature. the planet adapts and heals itself. inspite of us.

 

what i believe may happen is, not just sea ice will melt, but areas of russia and canada and scandanavia will have green belts moving further north as summer vice disappears. more carbon sinks. As sea levels rise so will rivers deepen and broaden. new tributaries will appear. more warmth and more wet induces more green. carbon sinks. earth has cycled through many climate changes over eons. and life survived. the current hysteria is predicated on an assumption that mankind is causing the present change, that mankind is evil, and therefore the chamnge is evil. i reject the whole hypothesis as paranoid and anti-human. i have faith in the planets mechanisms and rythyms

 

There you go,--- continue polluting the place up and dumping anything you want in the sea even nuclear waste that we have no idea what will happen to it or even know how long it remains active because we hav'nt had it long enough, yeah just **** all over the place it will be ok and any way if it gets real bad jesus will come back and save us.

I put my head in my hands and weep. Just stretch your arm out Yobi-- your wife will put a beer in your hand.

Humans will not live long on this planet nor do they deserve to.

Ive seen picture of communities living and squaller and waste surrounded by polystyrene containers and Mc Donald boxes, cow **** etc. Will Mother nature pick all that up.

The rest of the world does NOT want to live like that Yobi. It all starts in your own back yard. You can see those who care and those who don't.

Famous last words,----"Oh we thought the planet would heal itself" .

I find that attitude Damn annoying. Is this what we teach our Children

Stop crapping on my planet.

 

stop telling other people what they can, can't, or should do. clean your own house, frosty.
it's all of ours planet.
nobody made you boss.

 

Yob, you keep labeling anyone who understands we have a problem as 'hysterical.'

What does that make you -- with your combination of head-in-the-sand denial, and Pollyana-ish conviction that everything will turn out for the best even if it turns we are causing climate change? Level-headed? Or just flat-lined....

 

CO2 tax

It's good that the subject of CO2 taxes was brought up again. Like most people I don't like taxes but I dislike a budget deficit and a national debth even more. Taxes have to be high enough to pay for the spending and to amortize on the national debth. Taxes are the consequences of government spending.

All taxes I can think of have negative consequences for the economy. Some more than other. As I see it, a CO2 tax is less damaging compared to some other taxes. An increase in CO2 taxes should allow other taxes to be lowered, or at least not raised as much, if the starting point as in the US is a massive budget deficit.

I would suggest that taxes on labour (income tax, taxes associated with labour payed directly by the employer) are worse for the economy than a CO2 tax. A tax on wealth is also much more negative for the economy, as are taxes on company profits. Once the budget is in balance, which actually is the case for some countries, the revenue from a CO2 tax can allow the taxes on labour and other taxes that particularly hurt the economy to be lowered.

So why criticize the CO2 tax in particular? I understand that some people don't trust the government to handle any money at all, but what makes a CO2 tax worse than all the other taxes?

I don't see a problem with a CO2 tax, and it might help to reduce the acidification of our seas and the global warming.

Erik

 

Yob --consider yourself severely reprimanded, please desist from posting --its ok crap because it is very not OK.

Your not a child so I need go no further. The world will not heal itself from our pollution that gets worse yearly.

 

Aren't you the one who started a thread about throwing your garbage overboard in the marina?????

 

No that is absolutely incorrect. Do you want to read up or would you like me to correct you?