No natural disasters in 2009

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by Frosty, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. troy2000
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    Well, I finally had enough sense to just start ignoring the climate change threads; I guess there's no point getting started in this one. Happy holidays.
     
  2. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    I hope you are inspired to do some research and reading to find out what it is I have been posting recently... All is verifiable and links and sources are mostly from within USA by respected USA citizens who have been seen to get it right and cannot be passed off as "some rabid fool"... Just do some quiet reading of the links in the "global economics" thread over a beer or three - - JUST THE LINKS, then make up your own mind...
     
  3. dskira

    dskira Previous Member

    Masalai your rambling against the US is quite overdone. It's like a paranoia. Could you find an other country you don't live in to ramble against, like Cappo d'Istria?
    Thanks I apreciate.
    Cheers
    Daniel
     
  4. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    I'd say the biggest disaster in 2009 is a political one. For a change we cannot blame the wind water and a couple of fires.

    It seems the world wants to experiment by changing their country leaders to see if other than whites can do the job. If you expect something from someone they may do it, if you don't expect it they won't.

    I don't know how this will turn out in the US, but in africa it's not doing too well. These people have a chip on the shoulder, needs to stay in control at any cost, doesn't take advice from any one and only feed their own pockets. Someone else gets blamed all the time for their incompentencies. (sounds familiar US ? :D)

    Well, what else do you expect if the majority of your voters are uneducated and have an IQ of below 70. The world here is going backwards and not foreward.

    As for the US, I can see why every one blames them for everything. They are kind of the control center of the western world, if the **** hits the fan any where then who has to sort the trouble out - and who gets blames afterwards :D Kind of like if you give your kids pocket money they swear at you, if you don't give them pocket money they also swear at you. So WTF.

    EU wants to be a pace setter but lacks resources and besides with the UN their decision making is as idiotic as africa's. I get the impression there's too many people that have nothing better to do than to think up **** to improve their own immediate conditions rather than improve anything.

    There is the looming of the east. I guess the US will be blamed too once the explosion took place and three of your neighbours are chinese and you have to lower your income to their's to stay competitive which btw in most cases is to work a day to be able to eat.



    The biggest set back of the western world and white people per se' is the simple fact that they do not stand together. It is every man for himself and you can put that in any scale you want, from the guy who won't help his neighbour (I'm not getting involved) to an international level (that country must sort out it's own problems).

    The thing that fires up this 'behaviour' is mostly socialism, I don't have to work and every one else have to so I can be comfortable, so fcuk you jack, I'm ok.

    My suggestion is to stop thinking about yourself as an intelligent being. The next intelligent thing you think / do is probably what every one else was thinking / doing and is exactly why the world is as ****** up as it is.

    You are born, live a couple of sorry years maybe with a few clear moments here and there and then you die. Unless you do something really great or do something really stupid no one will know who you were or what you did. Once out of the way the vultures quickly pick your bones dry of whatever earthly belonging you happen to accumilate, and then nothing.
     
  5. bntii
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    Dream on.

    The US markets hit bottom on March 9. If you will remember I told such when we were there.
    EVERY security on my watch list has increased between 200 and 5000% since that time.
    I am now making good money on regional banks- up 25% in the last two weeks. A return to the gold standard is a pipe dream,
    remember to sell before the even more foolish recognize how poor of an ideal it is.

    You are a fear monger. Spewing crap produced by more of your kind. Every struggle has them.
    It is a extremely weak premise that you are only trying to help by kicking the US when it is down.
    If you are convinced that our country is in dangerous crisis, try helping.
    Spend the next month drawing our attention to the strengths of my country.
    Help us to understand the certain virtues which will carry us forward.

    As to Frostys post, you seem to have missed the point I and others made.
    I have no fear of impending crisis.
    I am a strong man who will not shy from a struggle or a necessary fight. If there are problems, I will deal with them.
     
  6. dskira

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    I congratulate you. Good attitude.
    CHEERS
    Daniel
     
  7. troy2000
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    If my country goes to Hell in a handbasket, like so many people are predicting (and some are hoping) it will, it certainly won't be because one of "these people" became its President.

    I don't usually comment much on other countries' internal problems, but your post was tantamount to an engraved invitation. I think South Africa is a clear case of "sow the wind, reap the whirlwind." When you exploit and mistreat people, and keep them subjugated, ignorant, uneducated and poverty-stricken for generations, is it any surprise that they don't magically become educated, experienced, knowledgeable and able to run a country overnight when they finally break loose?

    Poor people learn poor habits, and it doesn't matter what color their skin is. We have the same problem in this country--mostly with blacks as a direct legacy of slavery, but also with American Indians, Mexican Americans, and some pockets of 'whites' (have you ever heard the term "white trash"?). Guess what: no matter what the color of their skin is, when you treat people like trash long enough, they turn into trash. And it takes time to train them back out of it. A couple of generations at least, I'd say.

    You're thoroughly screwed over there until they get their act together, because they outnumber you. At least here in the States, people like that are just part of the mix.

    Getting back to our President: are you seriously trying to equate President Obama with the people living in Soweto's RDP housing, simply because of the color of his skin? Get a grip. He was born to a pair of college students, raised in a condo in Hawaii, educated at Harvard, and has never gone hungry or had a street fight in his life.

    OK, now I'm done with this thread. I knew better than to even click on it again.....:)

    If you want to respond do it via PM's, because I'm not posting here again. I have enough aggravation in my life already.

    edit: Hmmmm. Your description of 'these people' as having "...a chip on the shoulder, needs to stay in control at any cost, doesn't take advice from any one and only feed their own pockets. Someone else gets blamed all the time for their incompentencies...." describes our last President better than the one we have now.
     
  8. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    I have never seen a more classic example of folks using a lots of words, to prove they know precisely nothing about how the world's economy works or how societies evolve. Mas, you clearly don't have a grasp on how and why, but you sure have bought in, hook line and sinker, to the scare tactics used by a few, equally ill informed. You should educate yourself rather then listen and believe wholeheartedly in the ramblings of talk radio hosts, who's only real goals are improved market share, not reality.

    If you sheep want to buy into this crap, great, it just leaves me and the rest of the educated to cash in. My investments took a 25% hit during the worst of it last year, which is much less then most who got nailed for 30% to 50%, depending on how they were spread. Since it's grown 50% more then it was. I've cashed in with currency exchanges and other offerings, but you have to be truly informed, not full of hype and reverie.

    What a hateful, bigoted and arrogantly ill informed bunch of fools. You've learned nothing and spew your hate for all the world to see, not realizing how much of an idiot it makes you appear in everyone else's eyes.
     
  9. Submarine Tom

    Submarine Tom Previous Member

    PAR said: "What a hateful, bigoted and arrogantly ill informed bunch of fools. You've learned nothing and spew your hate for all the world to see, not realizing how much of an idiot it makes you appear in everyone else's eyes."

    PAR,

    What a pile of crap you unloaded. Do you feel better?

    I think you the fool my friend.

    -Tom
     
  10. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    PAR wake up, read something other than the NY Times and watch not the rubbish pretending to be news on your TV - This delight in the number of "conquests in tiger woods saga" demonstrates the banality and retarded standard that passes for well researched news coming from USA... All the stuff related to my above posts is sourced from within USA and verifiable - - - If you feel I am down on USA, then possibly you need to have a think and look at reality instead of "reality TV"... Where Have I "downed USA"? If the truth hits a sensitive nerve then the issue lies between your ears and maybe a bit of research and due diligence reading of some facts would help... The HONEST numbers do not paint a rosy picture, and your perceived anger is inhibiting your capacity to think and understand what is presented...

    The USA holds a unique and powerful position in global economics as THE prime RESERVE and INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE currency, and in this position is obligated to hold the value of the US$ constant and refrain from market manipulation that functions only to serve on domestic matters... This obligation is being ignored and worse, being manipulated to maximise the benefit to the bankers and organisations "The cartel", that have influence over the FED...

    At the same time it is fleecing the Citizens of USA with extreme prejudice... and you cannot see that? Where is the valiant US Citizen in this global economic crisis... Apparently being a good victim? and defending the corruption, criminal behaviour and deception at the very core of big business in NY....
     
  11. JLIMA
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    JLIMA crazed throttleman

    Myself personally have made and lost money in the past few years, mostly the latter. The US Dollar (which is my currency) is loosing value on a global level and inflation is rising at a near exponential rate and showing no signs of getting any better, if I didn't avoid credit and the stock market at all costs I would be in serious trouble. While don't get me wrong I love my country it doesn't look all that good for the ole' US of A right now. But blaming one president for all this or any one factor doesn't make any sense (to me at least, and while I will not pretend to be an expert on financial matters) I personally think this is a problem thats been brewing since the 90s or more than likely before then even. Cooperate corruption, sleazy banks, and uneducated investors did way more to get us into this mess then anything else. I also don't see any easy ways out, although all these "stimulus packages" and bail outs are doing nothing but hurting the US economy in the long run. Just like in any re-constructive process, it's going to be a long painful process. Just my opinion and like I said I am not a financial expert by any means.....
     
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  12. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    JLIMA, Nice post and well put, Seems a "crazed throttleman" has been endowed with working brains too go with a capacity to read and understand the situation...

    Some attribute the beginning of the end to 1971 when the "gold standard" was cancelled as the backing for money... Fiat money (valueless 'promises' to pay) is what all 'paper' currencies have become, there is still pure gold and silver coinage, that to the holder owe no other debts or burdens, holds its value, and have been recognised as money for more than 4000 years....
     
  13. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    I did fairly well this year, not as good as the previous, but it could have been much worse, especially if I lived in the fear that the major on this thread seem to live in. I have contracts and a new commission, my investments are in better shape then they were this time last year, by a substantial amount, so those of you that are crying about how the world is coming to an end or the dollar is dead, should really look at the big picture. Entering the last week of trading on the NY exchanges and the market is up 20% for the year, so clearly some of you haven't been paying attention or are focused of only some of the issues. My investment portfolio reflects this 20% increase in value the market is showing. Are changes about world wide, of course they are, when aren't they, but the shy isn't falling and those crying that it is, maybe should just stop looking up so much.
     
  14. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    PAR,
    If the exchange was UP where was the money coming from? - - what industry? - - what fundamentals? - - where workers were actually manufacturing something that would be used to produce more wealth to make what?...

    The share markets are skewed as that could be just a bear rally ready to collapse - created by the majors who will sell before the top and leave all the small hopefulls strung out to dry... Look at the portfolio holdings of the senior officers in the companies in which you have shares, are they selling or buying - Most are selling... Does this tell you something? Check out the recent (9months, 6 months, 3 months and monthly holdings of the executives their shareholdings and options etc - do due diligence NOW)...

    Are the shares paying dividends? based on what they produce to sell or some other asset sales? - If you are relying on increasing share values and the fundamentals are not there what is encouraging the increases in value to date?

    Have you taken significant deposits for future work? to cover your costs in inventory holding in preparation for their proposed work? If your clients find that they have joined the 22% unemployed citizens, will your contracts continue or get cancelled?
     

  15. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    We all know the story of the sparrow that got crapped on while he was cold.

    Maybe I am a grumpy old pathplug raving, but I know what this place was like before. Our children that got bombarded with tv crap and brainwashed to think this is how it is supposed to be doesn't know any different. Even the history in schools are a different one we learned, and you can guess where the sumpathy now goes to.

    Troy, for your sake I hope the US doesn't go the path we did. It was announced a couple of nights ago on the news that another 900 'black owned' farms are bankrupt, and another 400 are about to become bankrupt. Again they claim it is because gov doesn't support them to run the farms 'like they did with the previous owners' (whites who had no 'gov support'). This is besides the around 3000 farmers that got murdered so far.

    Par, we didn't have a bad year either, that is not the problem. The problem is the insecurity in the market that makes it ride up and down. You never know when the paw-paw is going to hit the fan for real. Our currency is about 8:1, they think it's too good and wants it really bad, so the three export products can get higher prices. They want a LOT, even if it is worth bugger all. The reason is simple, they just want an amount they have no idea of how much it is, like they cannot count to there.

    Also, you guys don't live in a place where your property could be given to someone because they think it is how it should be. It happened in Zim and is a reality here also. One gets forced into all kinds of situations you don't want to be in, like sharing your business with an idiot who wants to walk in and think you are going to work for him.

    So, if you think philamon and friends are so great, enjoy la la land while you can.
     
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