New Zealand Scow

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by dskira, Aug 9, 2009.

  1. Caro Brooking
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    Caro Brooking Junior Member

    Hi Rayman, Steve W and sltalk, my father owned Revival the scow that you were talking about and yes it was anchored for many years in Coxs Bay outside our place. We purchased it off Jack Lidgard when he lived on board it round the back of Beachaven. Jack had polio and lived aboard Revival for many years before my father Arch Brooking purchased it. Back then it had a mustard lower hull with white around the mid to top hull, white cabin and mustard roof. I remember the day dad first took us around to see it as kids. I was around 7 years old so that would have been around 1978. He owned it until the mid 1990's when he was approached by a chap Tom who lived in Marine Parade who wanted to purchase it. Dad (Arch) couldnt sail, but loved to occasionally motor around the harbour on her. We as kids used her as a swim-to platform in the bay and later in my teenage hood she was my sunbathing deck and fishing pontoon. Dad painted her light blue where all the mustard bits were. Jack had new engines purchased for her which lived in our garage for many many years. They were two massive red 'Honda' or 'Yamaha' engines from memory. The size of something you would put in a truck. Enormous! Brand new and shiny. I remember when we first saw the boat and Jack took us on board. She was lovely inside with a hand drawn centreboard which also had the drop leaf tables hinged off the centre board casing on either side. She had a lovely old pot belly stove and the galley although very tight was well appointed. Both sides of the boat opposite the centreboard were full length benches with hidden hinged storage and huge mustard coloured vinyl squabs on top. She would sleep 10. 4 on rope stretchers in the bow which you entered through two holes which lead to the main cabin. The mustard squabs on each side would sleep 3 (head to tail) and there was lots of room between each persons feet to the other persons head. She was solid kauri throughout. The masts were removed for some remedial work around 1982. We moved her to the creek bridge in Coxs Bay and used a winch system against the metal original railings to lift them in order to do some repairs on them and the roof of Revival. That was quite the show stopper on the day for the locals. Many stopped and watched the massive feat of good ole kiwi ingenuity at work. On the day we lifted each of the masts we found two coins - one under each mast. One dated 1842 or suchlike from memory and the other 1898. The first coin we were told by Jack Lidgard represented the oldest coin they could find at the time of placement of the mast and other was a current coin for the year of her manufacture. The masts were reinstalled a couple of weeks after they were removed and I remember a Ak Star reporter there on the day asking many questions about her. She was a beautiful boat. Floated in knee high water - that would around 30cm when I was a kid. She had a beautiful solid bow sprit which we loved running off and diving into the water from. Many times as a kid we would shimmy up the masts using the forged iron bars to climb our way up to the top then back down. I have some old photos of her from when Jack owned her and she's moored at the end of another Lidgard family members property, one of her under sail in a Auckland Anniversary Day regatta and some of her when she was anchored on the mud flats in Coxs Bay. My father loved her and she was swapped for a property in Te Atatu for Jack who had realised that he needed to be land based as he was starting to struggle living on the boat alone. He had other ailments and his health was deterioating. When we met him he didnt have any legs and we were always amazed at how he was able to swing himself around like Tarzan so quickly, climbing up, down and around Revival at lightening fast speed. Stories of her on the harbour were legendary from not only Jack but some other old mariners who would stop in to see Dad and recite tales of Revival. I recall that she was used as the 'flagship' on year for the Auckland Anniversary Regatta and her mini cannon was used to start the race. Another year she competed in the racing and was clocked at 35 knots racing past the race officials much to their disgust and amazement. She was fast alright. One year a group of doctors that lived in the area asked to take her out sailing on the harbour - probably saddened that she was generally moored at our place rather than being free out there. They took her out and when they returned, I remember one of the men saying to dad that they were a little unnerved at her speed. Dad was so proud of his Revival. We used to visit Jack quite often and he would recite stories of her history, owners and notable moments to Dad on every visit. I have much more I could tell you about her but only if asked. I was just going through some old photos and decided to google Revival Scow and saw this thread come up so thought I should say 'Yes' she was here in Herne Bay. And sadly 'Yes' she did deteriote and was eventually cut up by council after she was deemed to be a marine hazard. In the early 1990's the chap Tom, I mentioned earlier offered to purchase her from dad. My father was in his late 80's by then and agreed to sell her. He asked to keep her anchored outside our place, which Dad happily agreed to. Tom took her out a few times but fell on hard times when he and his then wife started separation/later divorce proceedings. Sadly Revival was neglected and after a couple of bad storms, one in which she broke anchor hit the jetty rocks after Tom decided it was a good idea to build a rock causeway/jetty to have better access at high tide. He didnt have the funds to repair her and I remember going out with dad on that stormy night trying everything we could to get her off the rocks - to little avail. The next morning we saw the damage. Actually it wasnt as bad as we thought, but the result was a large gash in her hull and some large long cracks on the side. We did a quick patch up job on her and I know Dad tried to contact Tom. Dad spoke to his wife, he had moved out, and said she would pass on a message to him. Sadly I dont think she ever did - later I found out it was a bitter divorce, and within a month we had another bad storm and this time Revival had cracked her centreboard casing and sunk. We pumped her out the next day and tried to fix her as best we could but not being her owner we werent allowed to do much. The harbourmaster informed us that unless she was completely submerged or had broken anchor and was adrift or a risk to others, there hands were tied to. My father tried on numerous occasions to find Tom but he had moved to Australia. Dad wasnt allowed to reclaim her as a shipwreck and thus she stayed where she was, slowly sinking between each of our pump outs. There was another cyclone and this was the one that took her out. She had a huge hole on her left side, midway down. I think a rock was the cause that had been dislodged with the huge waves and she had sat on it. Well for a few months she would fill with water each tide and slowly empty out but the sand and silt built up in her and eventually she floated no more. A few months later, the council came with a barge and cut her up. We saved her masts bowsprits, some rigging sails etc but most was lost. I have both her masthead and stern lights (old oil lanterns) and we did have all the other smaller oil lamp navigation lights that were located on both port and starboard 3 each side of the main cabin. There are a few other knic knacks off her too, but sadly some were stolen in 2004. But what I have is a wealth of memories, old yarns from those who owned her and who lived in her era. My father was born in 1908 and knew many ship builders of the day. So when he purchased Revival he did some investigating and researched her well. Oh when purchased she did come with the original navigational maps and other antique treasures. Sadly a terrible end for a beautiful lady of the sea. Regards Caro Brooking
     
  2. rayman
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    rayman Senior Member

    Thank you Caro Brooking, a most interesting post and history. I do not remember
    "REVIVAL" but have heard a lot about her. I shall forward this post to other interested parties who are curious as to her fate.
    regards ray
     
  3. Caro Brooking
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    Caro Brooking Junior Member

    Hi Ray, many thanks for the reply. I also noted that you were talking about Ferro Scows. Dad (Arch Brooking) had one of those here too. I have no idea what her name was but Dad acquired her from someone up behind Herald (Pine) Island or near the Henderson Creek area. The story goes that she struck rocks of Rangitoto on her maiden voyage and sunk. She was salvaged and although had a slow leak was able to be towed. We towed it from up Riverhead way over Meola Reef and into Coxs Bay where it was dragged from the stern onto our old beach. This would have been around 1979 - 1980. She was up on the 'hard' at home until she finally fell apart and we buried her on the property. I dont suppose anyone would know more about the ferro cement scow. We used to have plans for her but I havent been able to locate them. They were similar to these uploaded more than a decade ago on this website. I'll see if I can attache a copy of the plans as reference. The only difference was that from a lateral view she only had two levels of roofline not three as indicated on this plan. Just one long roof that started from behind the bowsprit "H" to about 2/3rd down the deck then a higher section towards the rear. Regards Caro
     
  4. Caro Brooking
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    Caro Brooking Junior Member

    Ferro Cement Scow/Ketch plan that sunk on maiden voyage hitting rocks off Rangitoto

    Here is a cut and paste of the scow schooner plan that is almost identical apart from the 3 level roofline as the one that sunk off Rangitoto on its maiden voyage around the mid-late 1970's. It would be great to find out more about the old girl. She was yellow, ply with ferro cement on chickenwire. Kauri mast, bowsprit, rudder. Thick ply sides with square windows cut out. Short in length but quite fat. Encased centreboard with hand winch. Wheelhouse was in a raised section at the rear. Inside fully appointed and with a pot belly too. She was salvaged and kept on the tidal flats around the back of Herald (aka Pine) Island where she was purchased by my father Arch Brooking and we floated her back across Meola Reef into Coxs Bay where she was dragged by the stern and put on the hard at home. Any info would be appreciated. Kind regards Caro
     

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  5. scowlover
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    scowlover New Member

    Hi, can anyone please advise where this scow is located now--I want to talk to owner re possible purchase. Thank-you Ross Ph021-1089345 or email longacres02@gmail.com
     
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