New User, I am looking for some opinions

Discussion in 'Projects & Proposals' started by ElPablo, Dec 3, 2014.

  1. ElPablo
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    ElPablo New Member

    Hello fellow sailers

    So I am almost 23 and need some advice. I have been looking online for information on constructing a ship. I want to build a 61' on deck with an overall length of 110', sloop style mono hull ship.I know that is a feet and I do not have any doubts that I cant build it, even if it took 10 years I have the general idea but do not know where to start. So Imagine I have all the tools I need and a full warehouse dedicated to this project. I have been on house building projects and have been welding for a year so building something from the ground up is nothing new. My main issues where I am lost at is how to start. I have blue prints and designs of the ship just need some advice regarding the hull construction.

    Fiberglass or Wood or maybe some other material?

    If I do fiberglass, should I build a male or female mold or maybe not even use a mold, construct the frame and than lay fiberglass over it?

    Any kind of Advice.


    Thanks
     
  2. gonzo
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    gonzo Senior Member

    If you have the blueprints/design. all your questions are answered by it. Otherwise, you need to get blueprints/design.
     
  3. ElPablo
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    ElPablo New Member

    I have very simple blueprint. Its mostly just dimensions with out a describing anyway to go about it.
     
  4. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Welcome to the forum.

    We see this a lot - a young person looking to build something a professional would be hard pressed to consider without a yard full of skilled workers.

    Needless (I hope) to say, the idea of a 61' yacht with nearly 200% in spared length is simply wishful dreaming. No offense intended, but simply just not a possibility for even the most dedicated novice. A project like this takes money and skill. so work up a budget and see where you stand. Next, get a full set of plans, not simply hull offsets, as you'll just have way too many questions to ever get it done. With a real set of plans you can work through the BOM to get an idea on materials costs and procurement. Lastly, figure about $30 per pound of boat, just to give you an idea of what these types of home build nearly mega yacht dreams cost. For example, lets say you want to build a "Tree of Life" type of yacht, which is far shorter than your spared length, but about 60' on the LWL. at $30 a pound, it's really a steal at $4 million. Hell, if you can build a Tree of Life for 4 million, call me as I buy it.

    Simply put, it would be a wise to start with a tender, for your dream yachts, say 8' - 12' and built in a similar method, so you can get an idea of the skills involved. Because lets face it, a 61' LOD yacht, with 50' in spar overhangs will need a good tender, if only to fetch more beer for the folks that can afford multi million dollar yachts like this.
     
  5. Mr Efficiency
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    Mr Efficiency Senior Member

    I get tired at the the thought of it. Imagine if one everyday "handy" man could comfortably build and afford a 110' boat, and then afford to keep and maintain it, the waterways would be somewhat congested with such craft. But they are a relative rarity. Ask yourself why !
     
  6. ElPablo
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    ElPablo New Member

    I doubt the waterways would be congested. Most people do not care to sail regularly. So where can I get the full set of blue prints?
     
  7. gonzo
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    gonzo Senior Member

    Start with the SOR (statement of requirements) That will tell you what the parameters and restrictions of the design are. There is a difference between a design and a drawing. The first includes calculations, dimensions, specifications, etc. Your should choose a naval architect or designer that you are comfortable working with. His fees are going to be a small percentage of the total cost, and probably the best investment.
     
  8. Mr Efficiency
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    Mr Efficiency Senior Member

    I doubt you have a realistic attitude toward this, you might be able to make a 30 footer, but 110 feet is a project 50 times bigger than that !
     

  9. rwatson
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    rwatson Senior Member

    " I am almost 23 .... I have been on house building projects and have been welding for a year so building something from the ground up is nothing new. My main issues where I am lost.... "

    I suggest you visit a commercial shipyard, and get a 'feel' for the huge amount of work involved.

    Also, look up large unfinished steel boats for sale, and go and talk to the owners about what is involved in terms of cost and time.
     
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