New Jib Design Idea

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  1. CarlosK2
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    As seen at first and confirmed at the end, the sailboat is across, crossed, the waves

    just what happened to the IMOCA "Hugo Boss" and capsized

    and note that there is no damn furler on the bow like Saint Bayesian, patron saint of this industry
     
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    I mean: we sailors have a number of problems, real problems, on the table that have not been resolved

    It is no use fooling ourselves and continuing to deny the pile of problems that have accumulated since 1979
     
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    We don't have to send a man to the moon, we have to solve a small list of problems

    We lower the StaySail by pulling on a rope, and we get the rudder blades out of the water

    Note all that we achieve

    1) We can leave the sailboat well oriented with respect to the waves while we rest or make a repair or whatever

    2) If we lower the reefed mainsail we can anchor in the sea facing the waves without breaking the rudders and without breaking the anchor rope by yaws very violently in a storm, It is much more comfortable and at the same time much safer.

    3) The sailboat can anchor in sand and mud and be calm and serene without pulling on the anchor rope and yaw from one side to the other, It is much more comfortable and at the same time much safer. The reality today is that cruise yacht are not even capable of anchoring comfortably and safely.

    4) In case of impact it is easier for the rudder to survive better than the now typical rudder that when broken on top creates a leak and sinks the boat, something that has happened too many times already
     
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    Copy and paste

    "While cruising for 3 months in the Bahamas earlier this year, we found ourselves staring out of our portlights in one storm after the next wondering why we were healing at anchor and swinging almost through 180 degrees"

    This

    This is a very common experience that many of us have suffered and that has gotten worse and worse in recent years.
     
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    Close to your ideals Carlos?

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    From videos, it seems to sail pretty slick, and its a pretty simple rig, even if not quite 1870s style. Protruding bulbs on keel bottoms leading edge never seemed like a good idea to me.
     
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  8. CarlosK2
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    A

    cockpit is (1) enormously exposed, (2) uncomfortable and, (3) with the boat turned upside down, it becomes the two hulls of a stable catamaran

    B

    1 ton sailboat which, however, is not a real boat/dinghy like an Itchen Ferry which only has a deck up to about where the mast is, but which still maintains the logic of a 10 tons sailboat/Yacht in which you move around the deck: note the stainless steel and the cables. I have not seen a dinghy with stainless steel and cables, because you don't step on the deck

    C

    interior that reflects France 1964 and that is not functional for a grumpy old man or for my idea of redefining cruising sailing: he enjoys a sporty sailboat, she goes by train or plane, camps in a nice anchorage for two or three days and a hotel

    D

    the rudder blades cannot be taken out of the water and therefore the problem of leaving the sailboat safely still whether it is anchored in sand or at sea is not solved, which can be crucial given that it is a very small boat and the logical thing would be to apply the logic of an ocean rowing boat to it
     
  9. CarlosK2
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    Aviateur 5.70

    Mast heigh: 8.8 m
    StaySail: 8 sqm
    MainSail: 14.5 sqm

    Beam: 2.5 m

    Keel 'arm': 30 kg
    Bulb: 200 kg
    Draft: 1.35 m

    WindSurf 5.99

    Mast heigh: 8.8 m
    StaySail: 7 sqm
    MainSail: 14 sqm

    Beam: 2.5 m

    Keel 'arm': 60 kg
    Bulb: 240 kg
    Draft: 1.75 m, CG 300 kg @ 1.5 m

    And ... Mast completely Closed (!) that in a light and small sailboat is Huge for passive safety
     
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    literally a 1 ton windsurf board

    I have never seen stainless steel tubes and cables on a surfboard

    the deck is not stepped on, never

    the two anchors, the sea anchor is thrown from the cockpit, and the anchor for anchoring in sand hangs from the bow and its rope reaches the sailboat's solitary and only winch, the deck is not stepped on

    the StaySail goes on its boom, with two ropes it is reduced from 7 square meters to 3 square meters, and with one rope the remaining 3 square meters are lowered, the deck is not stepped on

    the bowsprit turns towards the stern and reaches the sailor's hands, the deck is not stepped on

    a 1 Ton WindSurf board with two 200 L Water Ballast for beating Upwind
     
  11. CarlosK2
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    We arrived at a beautiful sandy beach on the Atlantic ...

    We took the rudders out of the water, raised the huge centerboard with a lever, a hoist and a winch ...

    and we moved away from the area where the Dinosaurs were and went with our colleagues: the Catamarans

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    Number of accidents including deadly , caused by boat stranded on the beach always wondered me . The beach should be a salvation, not death.
     
  13. CarlosK2
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    In summer there are large yellow buoys on the beaches in Spain and Portugal

    (and in a nanosecond someone on the beach photographs your sailboat's license plate and sends it to the police)

    It was a way of saying that a small draft of, say, 22 centimetres opens up a world of possibilities for a sailboat

    The correct word was not beach; but English is not my language

    Also, it would be silly for me to escape from the Dinosaurs to go where the Catamarans are with all the lonely places there are when you have little draft

    It was just a nice wink because in this forum the most active are the catamaran people
     
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    It is always safer to be as far from shore as possible in rough weather. Running aground should be avoided.
     

  15. CarlosK2
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    Not every "sandy area" is a "beach"

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    On the other hand, many of my favorite places are not sandy, but muddy... with some sandy areas in the middle of marshes
     
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