Need To Take a Poll - What's your Experience With Outboards?

Discussion in 'Outboards' started by CatBuilder, Oct 26, 2011.

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How Did Your Outboard Run?

  1. Carburetor: Ran Great! No problems.

    16 vote(s)
    48.5%
  2. Carburetor: Had minor problems.

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. Carburetor: Didn't run well at all.

    4 vote(s)
    12.1%
  4. Fuel Injection: Ran Great! No problems.

    7 vote(s)
    21.2%
  5. Fuel Injection: Had minor problems.

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  6. Fuel Injections: Didn't run well at all.

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. cyclops2
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    cyclops2 Senior Member

    Want to change this objective thread into politics ?

    Bring up more Trolling statements like taxes are good.

    Rich
     
  2. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Excellent thread.

    Thank you for all of your input. I wanted to see a general trend, but it would seem the results are all over the place and I was just unlucky.

    How many of you have had the outboards in question inside the United States in the last 10 years or so?

    Anyone notice an increase in carburetor problems in the last 10 years in the USA?
     
  3. cyclops2
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    cyclops2 Senior Member

    Bucking the yearly P M.

    The less I do to maintain EVERYTHING man made.

    The longer it runs without a problem.

    Moral is. If you get a good anything. DO NOT P M it, to become a problem.

    Oil, gas, water & filters as needed. :D
     
  4. michael pierzga
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    michael pierzga Senior Member

    From what I hear fuel injection was a good way to address the US dirty fuel problem. The system seems more imune to corn kernals. Thousands of happy customers zipping around in their 4 stroke fuel injected outboards. With carbs ,Im told that in the search for air qaulity improvements manufauctures of carbed motors used lean burn jets. These lean burn carbs are sensitive to corn kernals.

    If got an old carbed Johnson and a new carbed Yamaha. The old Johnson chuggs fuel, lays down a heavy 2 stroke smoke cloud, but starts on the first pull every time. The yamaha sips fuel , burns clean, but needs choke and several pulls and maybe another choke to fire up. Twice Ive had to remove the carb and blow it out.
     
  5. Rangerspeedboat
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    Rangerspeedboat Senior Member

    I just want to add that comparing carburetors to fuel injection is like comparing a Model T with a 2012 Ford F-150. Its impossible to compare the 2 things. One is old technology, the other is "relatively new". Carburetor Technology is over 100 years old, its maxed out on improvements. These problems that you people keep having with carburetors are called characteristics, they are just the nature of the beast.

    Fuel injection is good
    Carburetors are good
    They both do what they were designed to do.
     
  6. Easy Rider
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    Easy Rider Senior Member

    I have 2 fuel injected outboards and it looked like I may need a 30hp OB and was thinking of the Honda just because it has carburetors. I can deal w carbs but I have'nt had any trouble w my injected OBs. Five years ago I chose my 60hp Suzuki over others because it DID"NT have carbs. Different frame of mind then. Right now I think I'd go w carbs.
     
  7. cyclops2
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    cyclops2 Senior Member

    What you do not know about something may or may not matter.

    I have more than once shown a person how to put a credit card over the intake of a carburated engine to motor home at 1/4 speed.

    I have never found a way to limp home on a FUEL INJECTED engine.

    Ther is no simple way to get the fuel system to dribble into the carburator intake.

    The credit card is very SAFE, QUICK & easy to teach & do. 1 or 2 people can quicky find the "" sweet spot "" with hand / rope pulls.
     
  8. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    Its all about electronics, not a good place for electronics in a boat, but yet they still try to, ---you know black boxes and engine management great on a car,--sure bring it on.

    On a boat, no-- A carb does not have electronics I will always get home on a carb.

    The fact that weve had them for 100 years is the beauty of it and I dont want improvemnets on a dinghy I want reliability.
     
  9. cyclops2
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    cyclops2 Senior Member

    I have ALL of you beat with my system.

    500' length of line tied to my dock. :D

    The fish reallyare that close to shore. :p
     
  10. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Why is this?

    Is it really just your mood or is it a preference to go back to carbs?

    I am leaning fuel injection because of all of the time I've spent pulling carbs to clean out whatever it is that was making the engine run poorly.

    My thinking about injection (and correct me if I'm wrong, folks), is that we have fuel injectors running in our primary propulsion (most of us). Diesels are all fuel injected. What would be the difference having an outboard fuel injected vs the diesel?

    Wouldn't the reliability be the same?
     
  11. cyclops2
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    cyclops2 Senior Member

    Let a Diesel run out of fuel while running.

    Empty tank, out of fuel. Tell us how quick you got it to start & run right.
     
  12. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    True. That does take about 10 minutes of priming, but the reliability of every diesel I have owned has been incredible. Never had a problem with the fuel system on any of the 5 total diesel engines.
     
  13. powerabout
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    powerabout Senior Member

    for sure as they all have return fuel systems
    not something you are allowed to have with gasoline injection
    and no ethanol in diesel to absorb the water so way in front for many reasons

    PS Common rail with electric priming pump almost start instant from first prime
     
  14. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    Deisel fuel injection and petrol fuel injection is chalk and cheese.
     

  15. powerabout
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    powerabout Senior Member

    these days not much difference.....
    common rail
    direct to combustion chamber
    computer run
    if you were handed a component you would struggle to tell from which system it was from
    pressures on both going up and up although still way higher with a diesel thats for sure

    what would you say are the chalk and cheese parts
     
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