Mystery boat

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  1. Petros
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    an anonymous donation was made to the Mariner Park Musium in Canada a few years ago. I found this in a search and thought it was an interesting design, rather advanced hull shape for a wood hull. Perhaps someone here can identify it. It is 25 ft long.

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    Here is the link to the museum web site, if you know what it is contact them:

    http://theislandambler.com/2012/09/13/marine-museum-south-bay/
     
  2. Doug Lord
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    Thats pretty neat, Petros-thanks! I bet she'd sail real well....
     
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    Cool boat!
     
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    The stern shape and topsides remind one of Uffa Fox's Atlanta.......I know it's not one of those but perhaps a relation or inspired by......
     
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    Waterfowl Hunting boats like round hulls to avoid wave slap and noise.

    The wide beam aft ? It wont row well, but it will carry a big cargo. Stick your head in and look for feathers or blood stains. ????

    The crash bar astern of the traveler must mean that the rudder needed to be protected. ?

    It has a second rudder position on port side. ? Some kind of work was performed over the transom. It even has heavy brass half oval chafe bars aft.

    The boat looks 12 ft long ...not 25 ft
     
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    the museum web site lists it at 25 ft, I would presume they actually measured it. It looks smaller than that to me to but it might just be perspective. I do not think it is a row boat at all, I zoomed in on it and those fittings that look like oar-locks are actually cleats for a jib sheet. I also noticed the extra set of rudder mounts, perhaps an outboard mount?

    Perhaps it was built as part of a rental fleet for tourists? hence the crash bars and heavy rub rails.
     
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    .... read more carefully..


    ""To me, she looks very much like the ship “Victura”, JFK’s sailboat, a Wianno Senior (25 – foot) "

    The old boat pictured is not 25 ft.....in relation to the 7 or 8 foot oars in the cockpit

    The boat pictured has no chainplates , so it was baldheaded, free standing.

    Perhaps rigged like a catboat.

    http://[​IMG] upload pics
     
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    I'm wondering if they have the caption on the right picture.... even leaving aside the size differential, that boat looks nothing like a Wianno Senior to me (see attached photo).

    I agree with Michael that it had a freestanding rig, with a baldheaded gaff or maybe a spritsail.... and it probably got rowed a lot.

    Lovely little boat whatever it is, Petros. Thanks for posting it.
     

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    yes, I figured it had a cantilevered mast since there appears no chain plates. I wonder if it has any rigging with it.

    Yes, I did not quite get the reference. looks like it might be in the 15 ft length than?
     
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    JFK's Wianno Senior, Victura.
     

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    That is not the museum's web site. It is a web site of "Birdie, the Island Ambler" ( http://theislandambler.com/about-the-ambler/ ) who appears to have visited the museum, taken some photos and then created a web page about the museum. So I would not assume that anyone at the museum believes that the boat in the photo is a Wianno Senior (which it clearly is not) nor that it is 25 feet long.

    The current web site for the Mariners Park Museum appears to be http://www.pecounty.on.ca/government/rec_parks_culture/rec_culture/museums/mariners.php Not much information.

    I'll send a note to friend who is a boatbuilder in the general area and see if he can identify it.
     
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    Response from my friend about the mystery boat:
    I’ve seen this boat before- …. Can’t remember where- it uses to be a Greavette Streamliner then converted to sail… ​
     
  13. michael pierzga
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    Hmm...guess this guy building a Greavette is one foot tall. Must be hard to find one foot boatbuilders. Perhaps he is genetically modified

    The Greavette has a straight run aft and hard chine , not a round chine like the skiff.

    The skiff is small, lightly built...not 25ft and capable of a powerplant


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    Mike, who provided the information I quoted, said he'd ask some friends to see if someone had more information. I'll pass it along if I hear anything else.
     

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    Not a Greavette Streamliner either, close but no cigar:

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