Multiplast does a Performance Cruiser?

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Reality Fluno, Oct 9, 2006.

  1. Reality Fluno
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    First post. Just back from Annapolis to look at all the fat, heavy Condo-Marans and thinking: for the large J$CK involved:

    What would a hot Cruiser look like if done by VPLP or MULTIPLAST?
    not a one off...a production boat.
    NOT: Lightspeed
    NOT: SIG 45
    NOT: GUNBOAT 48
    NOT: Lagoon (which is VPLP anyway) or Outremere

    Is there a market for a 60-80 footer to sail fast with a few comforts?
    Orma-type rig brought back in the hull to make it fast and stable, larger beam
    All carbon (yes noisey--use foam core?)
    Park Avenue style boom
    Where would you build it? S.A.? Italy?
     
  2. kach22i
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    Hard to follow you, do you have an image to post to help me picture this?

    How about an 80 foot Special Operations boat?

    http://www.warboats.org/mkv.htm
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    EDIT:
    I found one for sale, used................................

    http://www.yachtcouncil.com/yacht-i...page=5&pos=6&p=/yacht-categories/cruisers.asp
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  3. Chris Ostlind

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    Kachi: Was there something about the list provided that got you into powerboats with one hull?

    Reality: Personally, I'd love to see that type of boat out there tooling around. Unfortunately, I don't think there'd be enough potential buyers to justify the design costs and the tooling just yet.

    The monohull market can suuport boats of this type because there is older money involved and any advantage they can take over their buddies at the yacht club will mean a boat of that type getting sold. The same is not true for the ultra-fast multi market at present.

    I would think that a stripped-out Gunboat 66 could come pretty close to your picture, though, if someone was so inclined. Gunboat says they will soon have an 85 available. I wonder how much you might save if you went for minimum appointments rather than the full palacial treatment? Maybe nothing due to fixed tooling setups at the yard.
     
  4. kach22i
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    Yep, that white boat does look like a sauage.

    I was only guessing at what "Reality Fluno" meant. I suppose being in the multi-hull section would mean he was going on about multi-hulls.

    Like I said, I just can't guess that well, just using pictures to help lead a conversation.

    80 foot long multi-hulls that I know about have sails on them, don't know why that is exactly.
     
  5. Reality Fluno
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    Reality Fluno New Member

    what is it about:
    >>
    Is there a market for a 60-80 footer to sail fast with a few comforts?
    Orma-type rig brought back in the hull to make it fast and stable, larger beam
    All carbon (yes noisey--use foam core?)
    Park Avenue style boom
    >>

    that has anything to do with powerboats?
     
  6. Reality Fluno
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    You are right about the market. But GB seems to be building 3 more of the 48s now. One wonders if it could be done nice enough but minimal still and a little cheaper.

    ie: Larger MaineCat with accoutrements and proper salon.
     
  7. kach22i
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    Orma-type rig

    That means sail?

    Sorry, I just don't know all these cryptic sailor terms. I actually thought Engish was a second language for you, or you were really drunk when you wrote your first post.:D

    Maybe it was the New Jersey accent that threw me, I don't know.
     
  8. brian eiland
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    Hot Cruising Cat

    Actually Multiplast is building a big cruising cat to be known as the
    ExclusivE 76
    http://www.multiplast-yachts.com/news/index.cfm?action=news&ID_Actu=121&NumLangue=2

    I'm presently talking with a gentleman who has expressed an interest in building a 70 version of my 65 design with extra-lightweight construction including a carbon mast, etc
    http://www.runningtideyachts.com/home/

    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-sailing-discussion/1548-gamefishing-sail-under-sail-power-3.html

    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-sailing-discussion/1548-gamefishing-sail-under-sail-power.html
     
  9. Reality Fluno
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    YES:
    Someone speaking my language. I only saw that Broadblue was offering an aft-rig at Annapolis last weekend.

    OK: so now:
    How about: Retractable propeller "pods" to reduce drag? This has been done somewhere.
    (NO--NOT A POWER BOAT a sailboat)




    "So what did I come up with? Lets call it a marriage between a cutter and a ketch without the mainsail. The original design was published in Yachting 1974 and in Multihulls 1975. Rudder magazine also made note of it in 1974. It was "A Unique New Cruising Rig", designed to go on a 55' cruising cat I was working on at the time. It didn't get built and neither did the rig. Like a bear, it went into hibernation. "
     
  10. kach22i
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    Sorry about that RF.

    Brian Eiland, nice links, a picture is worth a thousand words.:)

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    Pictures

    Actually there are some better illustrations somewhere I saw, but can't remember where at the moment
     

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    Aft Rig & Prop Ideas

    Interesting quote from an old friend Rob Underwood who is now with Broadblue, and previously was managing director of Prout for years. I asked him about the aft rig option on their newer 385 model, and his reply, "customers choose this mast aft version by a ratio of 10 to 1 over the fwd mast rig."

    Have a look here at what's coming.
    http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9432

    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/technical-discussion/3961-rim-driven-propellers.html

    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/technical-discussion/2229-diesel-electric-propulsion.html

    In the meantime my 'belt drive' unit could be made retractable. And the 'belt' would not necessarily need to be a kevlar one, but could be a 'silent chain' (metal) as utilized by PYI at one time in the very recent past
     
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