Motor Sailers by Philip Rhodes & John Alden

[RHP]

Brian, any idea where the 7 sisters are? One was for sale in very poor/stripped out condition, any idea where the others are/went?

 

[brian eiland]

Brian, any idea where the 7 sisters are? One was for sale in very poor/stripped out condition, any idea where the others are/went?

Sorry I don't know that much about the vessels by their name,...nor their whereabouts.

 

[RHP]

Brian.... what is the boat I just found..... looks like a Rhodes 44 Virginia Reel but she's 52'... built in Spain in '57 of wood at Astilleros Udondo. Her deckhouse superstructure has been modified but look at the underlying lines.

Did Rhodes or Alden have a 52' design?

http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1...lassic-Motorsailor-2967298/Spain#.WEgJz2J950w

https://www.inautia.com/boat-rental...majorca-34630020132170666954505470694570.html

 

[brian eiland]

Brian.... what is the boat I just found..... looks like a Rhodes 44 Virginia Reel but she's 52'... built in Spain in '57 of wood at Astilleros Udondo. Her deckhouse superstructure has been modified but look at the underlying lines.

Did Rhodes or Alden have a 52' design?

Certainly looks like it could have been a design from either of those gentlemen. or at the very least a design greatly influenced by those gentleman. I think the 'Virginia Reel' boats got a lot of publicity at the time, so that might have been a big influence.

Interesting that they made no mention of the designer of that boat for sale.

 

[RHP]

Found another variation upon the Virginia Reel theme:

The sales blurb states (sold 2 years back):
Designer: Fabio Peterlini, S.Margherita Liguria, Italy on project by Philip Rhodes

Construction: Cantiere Craglietto, Trieste, Italy

Length in feet 48.25 feet
Length in cm 1470 cm
Width 410 cm
Depth 185 cm
Gross Tonnage 22.28

Engine brand Caterpillar 3304, 4 cylinders, 220 hp turbo, diesel, 2,350 hours
Max speed 9 knots

Generator: Lombardini, LMG 8000 series 8 kw diesel, 700 hours
Sail area 75sqm
Teak deck, rosewood, oak beams
Inside 2 bedrooms (2 + 2 beds), saloon with dining table and bed sofa (2 beds), 1 kitchen, 1 sailor's cabin (1 bed and toilet)
Max people on the boat 12

We own the boat since 1975 and have carried out yearly refitting. In particular the deck was completely renovated in 2007, the boat was repainted in 2010. Every year, the boat is taken out of the water, and the lower side is cleaned and painted with antifouling.
A very good captain takes care of the boat all year round and can continue to deal with the boat.
We loved the boat very much, it is ideal for a family. The boat is elegant and has flair, every part has been done in the finest detail.
The boat is inside and out in wood, in a very good condition and is very comfortable, with lots of places to lie, large water tank (3000 l), two refrigerators and a freezer.
Attached there is also a 4.5 meter Boston Wahler with 40 hp Johnson engine and a 2.5 m joker boat with 4 hp Yamaha engine.
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[FAST FRED]

"The original plans show that the main was brailed to the mast, but later it was set on a roller-furling drum mounted a couple of feet abaft the mast. This leaves a wide gap between the luff and mast, but it helps assure that the sail will not bang against the spar when it is furled. "

Folks that would like to copy this today might consider a brush or broom like filler slid up the sail track to lessen the aerodynamic losses of a gap between the mast and sail.

 

[brian eiland]

Found another variation upon the Virginia Reel theme:

Nice find RHP, thanks for posting to this subject thread.

 

[brian eiland]

Check out the condition of this beauty ...for sale!

1980 Cheoy Lee 52 Motor Sailer. LLC Owned Sail Boat For Sale

 

[Guillermo]

She is not a motorsailer, indeed, but a sail-assisted motor boat! A very nice one, btw.

Okay its time for a beautiful Alden design, althought a little short on sailing potential.
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The sails are strictly secondary propulsion. 613 square feet in area, they are to be used for steadying, emergencies, and for helping out the engines on long passages. She is not to be considered a motor sailer, but rather a cruiser capable of handling long distances on bumpy oceans[/I]

 

[Guillermo]

Astilleros Udondo was a very active boatyard located close to Bilbao in the basque country. I think it closed its doors in the seventies or eighties. The main (and only?) designer was José Manuel Alonso Allende, a naval architect and very successful sailor, founder of the boatyard.

Something about him here: http://blueangelina.blogspot.com.es/

Brian.... what is the boat I just found..... looks like a Rhodes 44 Virginia Reel but she's 52'... built in Spain in '57 of wood at Astilleros Udondo. Her deckhouse superstructure has been modified but look at the underlying lines.

Did Rhodes or Alden have a 52' design?

http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1...lassic-Motorsailor-2967298/Spain#.WEgJz2J950w

https://www.inautia.com/boat-rental...majorca-34630020132170666954505470694570.html

 

[brian eiland]

Okay its time for a beautiful Alden design, althought a little short on sailing potential. But look at the lines of this vessel, and the very comfortable living space. I almost bought one of these recently.

From Rudder mag;
Mr. Brandt of Massachusetts, is a man who wants to go places, safely and comfortably Alden was commissioned to design the vessel to do this, and the result is shown here. The Lazy Lady is Alden’s idea a modern, oceangoing power cruiser.

She was built by the Bass Harbor Boat Shop of Bernard, Maine and thus far has lived up to her owners expectations. Powered by a 220 hp. Cummins diesel engine, she can cruise continually at better than 10 knots. Corten steel fuel tanks holding 1,060 gallons provide a cruising range of 2,000 miles.

Below, she has three staterooms sleeping six plus crews quarters for two. Mr. Brandt specified a large saloon, and this one fills the bill. It opens directly into a deep after cockpit that is, in effect, a continuation of the saloon.

The sails are strictly secondary propulsion. 613 square feet in area, they are to be used for steadying, emergencies, and for helping out the engines on long passages. She is not to be considered a motor sailer, but rather a cruiser capable of handling long distances on bumpy oceans

I had posted this older image with this earlier posting. I've tried to clean it up with this posting.

PS: Could be better I'm sure, but I am not that well acquainted with photo editing software (any help out there?)

 

[Rurudyne]

I had posted this older image with this earlier posting. I've tried to clean it up with this posting.

PS: Could be better I'm sure, but I am not that well acquainted with photo editing software (any help out there?)

She's a pretty boat but I must confess, silly fellow that I be, when it saw the life preserver on the side of her flying bridge it (the flying bridge / preserver combo) somehow reminded me of another famous boat and I started humming the Gilligan's Island theme.

 

[schakel]

Originally Posted by chuckb
Any Laurent Giles fans? ...Along the same lines is this 1964 Laurent Giles design

I think this 47 footer is one of the most beautiful motor sailor/decksaloons ever built:


designed by Laurent Giles.

She is for sale:

http://www.sandemanyachtcompany.co.uk/details/456/Laurent-Giles-47-ft-Yawl-1951/yacht-for-sale/

 

[brian eiland]

She's a pretty boat but I must confess, silly fellow that I be, when it saw the life preserver on the side of her flying bridge it (the flying bridge / preserver combo) somehow reminded me of another famous boat and I started humming the Gilligan's Island theme.

That's funny , I never took notice of that as I was always looking at her sheer line and that clipper bow,....

...plus the raised saloon/deckhouse,...and a flybridge to cap it all off.

 

[RHP]

Schakel, she's lovely but to me she's simply a yacht with a doghouse/deckhouse. The cockpit is pure sailing yacht as are the hull lines.

I guess we should start a separate thread as Jack Laurent Giles drew some gorgeous motorsailors from Blue Leopard downwards.