Modern hirondelle

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  1. cavalier mk2
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    That's Cavalier to you Rick..... Hey, I'll look but that had to be awhile ago? I'll see what my archives say. Following this thread reinforces my belief in "miracle fiber W" as the Gougeons' would say.
     
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    Well that was a while ago.... 2012. My comment was, "That is the first time I've seen a Horstman where someone didn't think it was big enough...."! IMG00001-20101204-1151.jpg IMG00004-20101204-1152.jpg IMG00005-20101204-1152.jpg
     
  3. guzzis3
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    OMG! Man that's ugly. The 27-9 has standing headroom in standard form, why would you do that ? Maybe the owners are 7' tall...


    It looks like they have raised that boat through the center but not over the bunks. I had thought to keep the flush deck but raise the whole thing right across the beam, float to float.

    Thank you for the comments on timber. One more question if I may. The only stuff on the T24 I've found online is the videos on youtube. That boat appears to have a bridle mainsheet. Does the T31 have a conventional traveller ? maybe with the tiller routed under it ? I imagine the 31 still uses a tiller or does it go to wheel steering ?

    I wouldn't put a wheel on a 24' boat. Just wondering how Mr Horstman tackles that given the solid stern...
     
  4. cavalier mk2
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    Honestly on timber if you keep the membrane intact with epoxy you never get a problem but it should still be well ventilated with the appropriate drain/limber holes. While doing a mod on my boat I've had to replace some coaming where air holes that could let in water were built in but drain holes for the water weren't. Mind you it was good for over 40 years....

    The best mainsheet I've tried was suggested by Tom Speers. A center mainsheet tackle and continuous lines that go out to the amas for instant vang/preventer uses. It works like a full track without the full expense and far exceeds what a conventional vang can do.

    Really that boat isn't that bad, it looks all of a piece. If you need those features on a multihull which rides on top of the water the tall profile is what you have to live with.
     
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    Thank,s Cavalier , you take better care of your pictures than I do , maybe why I sent them to you . The owner was tall and the added dogger did make the boat ugly . But that being said , when the boat came up the river a few months before all worked stopped on both sides of the river in order to get a look at it . This would not give you any real head room over the bunks unless you widened the modified area , and it would open up only part of the bunk area . I think this boat is the Tristar that was up for sale on the east coast a while back , it was a modified 27'9" , I think extended to 30' , maybe . The cabin beck mod was sharp , not sure how it would affect the sailing ability , the hard dogger is something I have ask Ed about , it was a big no on the 31' . There is also a Tristar 31' foam built boat in Florida , I think it also had a hard dogger . You have the option of tiller or wheel steering , skig rudder or kickup . If you want a kickup make sure you wright and ask him for it . I get the impression Ed is a skeg rudder man , inboard moter on boat,s that have them , and you also need to ask for the foam bulkhead plan page to be included .
     
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    Ed Horstman has replied to my email, so good news there. Seems it was lost or something.
     
  7. Manfred.pech
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    Hi Guzzis I´ve mentioned a Hirondelle 25 but was not able to tell the source. Now I have found it:

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    MULTIHULL INTERNATIONAL Vol. 33, No. 383; January 2000 Page 8
     
  8. guzzis3
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    That's interesting, thank you for the information.

    There is no mention of that version on the 2 hirondelle groups I know of. There was apparently 1 example of a much longer, maybe 29', boat built. I'll post this to teh facebook group. Perhaps someone will give more information.

    The hirondelle was 23' not 22' so maybe the 25' was accomplished but adding the scoops to the transom. The "family" had already been widened to 12' from 10' and reworked in other ways.

    Unfortunately life has got in the way of the boat design. I will get back to it when I can.

    I hope everyone is well and happy.
     
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    My best wishes to you. You will be back. M.
     
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  10. guzzis3
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    I can not help you with this one, just wanted to tell I am glad you are still around and looking at boats.
    Get better, sir!
     
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    Saw that too, what does the advertiser say about it ?
     

  13. guzzis3
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    It sold. I don't know. Looked like a production boat but never seen another like it. I though it might have been a freedom 8 or whatever they were called. LOOKED like the mast was stepped forward but hard to tell.
     
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