Minimum Passagemaker/Cruiser

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by mydauphin, Sep 29, 2010.

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What is minimum that you can handle?

Poll closed Oct 29, 2010.
  1. I can only live in a proper yacht

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  2. Need: Size between 40 and 50 feet

    8 vote(s)
    24.2%
  3. Need: Size between 30 and 40 feet

    15 vote(s)
    45.5%
  4. Need: Size smaller than 30 feet ok

    8 vote(s)
    24.2%
  5. Need: Power

    22 vote(s)
    66.7%
  6. Need: Sail

    19 vote(s)
    57.6%
  7. Need: Single Engine

    24 vote(s)
    72.7%
  8. Need: Twin Engine

    5 vote(s)
    15.2%
  9. Need: Head and holding tank

    26 vote(s)
    78.8%
  10. Need: Air conditioner and Generator

    7 vote(s)
    21.2%
  11. Need: Watermaker

    15 vote(s)
    45.5%
  12. I don't care if interior looks like my garage

    8 vote(s)
    24.2%
  13. Need: DC Power Only

    15 vote(s)
    45.5%
  14. Need: Carpeting

    4 vote(s)
    12.1%
  15. Need: Wood floors

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  16. Need: Satellite TV

    3 vote(s)
    9.1%
  17. Need: Internet

    13 vote(s)
    39.4%
  18. Need: Hot Water Shower

    18 vote(s)
    54.5%
  19. Need: Manual Bilge pumps

    17 vote(s)
    51.5%
  20. Need: Propane Stove

    16 vote(s)
    48.5%
  21. Need: Freezer

    12 vote(s)
    36.4%
  22. Need: A boat that won't shame me at the marina.

    12 vote(s)
    36.4%
  23. Need: Windlass

    18 vote(s)
    54.5%
  24. Need: Dingy

    26 vote(s)
    78.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. TeddyDiver
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    TeddyDiver Gollywobbler

  2. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    A true passagemaker should have two at the bow, and a stern anchor of substantial size. The stern windlass should be of the horizontal type, allowing to use the capstan for mooring assistance. It is acceptable to have the stern system using rope instead of chain, and a anchorweight.

    Much better.....

    Hope you do´nt mind the way I have choosen to reply. I think it is easier to follow this way. (answers in red adjacent to statements)

    Regards
    Richard
     
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  4. RHough
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    RHough Retro Dude

    Thanks Richard,

    Sadly I can't seem to find stud link chain in small sizes. 5/8" (16mm) is the smallest common size I can find. That is a bit heavy for a 17 ton 45ft LOA boat. Other than the stud link recommendation what other options do I have to reduce the knotting?

    Randy
     
  5. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    Lets hope they don´t know them...........
    whats that:
    diesel accumulator sump tanks
    ???

    Again, leave us alone dummy. With every single post you show better you never went to sea. You lie.
     
  6. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    none, to make it short. The pyramid nonsense would not help either. But there are chains in 12mm on the market. Studlink!

    Richard
     
  7. RHough
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    RHough Retro Dude

    Thanks for taking the time. Happy to see I'm not too far off base! Using nail polish to dim the LED's is something I had not thought of.

    R
     
  8. TeddyDiver
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    TeddyDiver Gollywobbler

    You welcome :)
    Eeer... well.. somekind of emergency pail incase... BUT it's kind for locals to save some. They need their coins.. And 10 days unwashed clothes is nothing :D
     
  9. RHough
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    RHough Retro Dude

    I'll keep looking. I'd certainly change out the chain and gypsy if I can find the parts.

    R
     
  10. TeddyDiver
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    TeddyDiver Gollywobbler

    I think in my link the smallest was 12mm..
    http://www.sotra.net/index.php?mapping=229
     
  11. pool
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    pool Junior Member

    But make sure you also have nav lights at deck level for use in inshore / coastal cruising situations. Small boats have been run over by commercial traffic, after their masthead lights were mistakenly identified as a small boat on the horizon, while they were actually close in.
     
  12. gunship
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    gunship Senior Member

    dont you usually have the red/green pretty low, and the white tops pretty high?

    I know sailors can have a Red over green high up in the mast, but motors only use one white front/sides and one white rear, right?
     
  13. michael pierzga
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    michael pierzga Senior Member

    Red green on a sailboats mast are not position lights, they are staus light.. "I am sailing". just as "red over red the capatin is dead " is a status light displayed high up.. Red green, port starboard running lights shall be mounted lower, typically no higher than the wheelhouse.
     
  14. apex1

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    What a utter nonsense.

    You are not allowed to have several sets of nav lights installed! And the comment about masthead lights is a lie.

    I am happy to be on your ignore list!
     

  15. sabahcat
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    A bit large and a bit heavy for a 40 ft passagemaker
    and is the pattern the same as Lgrade chain? will it suit a standard winch?

    And apex with his 2 anchors on the bow crap:rolleyes:
    I imagine if you use horrifically oversized 12.5mm studlink you will also use horrifically oversized anchors X 2 mounted just where you dont want them on a short vessel
     
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