Mini Ocean Racing Scow

Mini 865

There is a bow pole show in the previous picture-just seems kinda small-here it is blown up a bit:

click, expand and click again for best view-

 

Mini 865

Non-sailing video of 865-David Raison design-Davy Beaudart, skipper: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Davy-Beaudart/132460953459830?fref=photo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSNV-urRZJE&feature=youtu.be

 

I don't even see the reinforced mount points that would be needed. I guess we will see it when they need it. When is the first qualifying race?

 

IMNSHO, that is certainly not the pole for the offwind sails.
Looks like a typical (for 650's) control strut for managing the pole position from the cockpit.
Not clear from that picture, but likely that the pivot point for the pole would be above deck level to enable the pole rotating aft.
Common among mini's for the main pole to be pivoted sideways and stowed back alongside the sheer line, thereby needing some kind of line with a little leverage to rotate it (forward) into position when needed (before the sail is set), then the side-stays tensioned up to position the pole, sometimes well to windward.


Damn, I love that new bottom (below the chine) shape.
Predicting that Raison has found another step-change in performance over his 747 shape.

Enough speculation, May is here, so she'll be sailing v.soon.

 

Mini 865

I'm sure you're right Tom. I imagine the first sailing pictures will be on his Facebook page-post 137....
UPDATE-sailing pictures up.

 

Thanks Doug,

Interesting... he seems to have gotten the bow pole on board and at least partially rigged.

From earlier pics, you could see that he planned the lifelines so that the pole could be brought aft and still be inside max.beam (which was in the mini rule last I read them).

 

865 & 747

Excerpt from article from SA front page( www.sailinganarchy.com) by Ronnie Simpson:

Just days after Davy Beaudart’s prototype Mini Transat 865 Cutisol (aka Scow-bow Mini #2) has launched, it’s sailing in 2nd place in the inaugural “Mini in May” race, a 416-mile race currently taking place off of Brittany. The only boat ahead of 865? That would be none other than Giancarlo Pedote’s scow-bow 747 Prysmian, the one which started it all.

For those keeping score at home, that means scow’s 1-2 in a 37-boat fleet. And get this – they’re doing it in light air so far, both upwind and down, though up to 30 knots is on it’s way. With 865’s out of the box pace and 747’s near-miss at repeat wins in the Mini Transat, it’s hard to argue with boat speed and results.

 

Yep, can't argue with success...fascinating boat.

 

Do you know what the sail areas are for the scows vs the more triangular boats? Are they able to carry more? Is this just a case of finding a way to build the biggest boat in the box rule?

 

Mini Scow

No limits on sail area specifically-just a limit on length, beam, draft and "air draft". Two classes: Production and Proto's. No sail area advantage to the scow except maybe being able to carry more sail longer in changing conditions .

 

Mini Scows

From Scuttlebutt Europe this morning:

The Mini Fastnet: Sharing The Legend

This Mini Fastnet 2014 will see 37 pairs at the starting line. In Prototypes and Production boats alike, there will be a lot of big names again this year: plenty of 'rookies' plus some 'oldies but goldies' livening up the 29th edition of this legendary circuit of 600 nautical miles between Douarnenez and the Fastnet Rock. The prologue race is Saturday 21 June, the race start on Sunday 22nd.

In the Prototypes, a surprising pair was announced yesterday: Davy Beaudart (Cultisol) joins up with David Raison, the designer of his brand new Maximum; a designer who dared to try rounded bows.

In this year's Marie-Agnes Peron Trophy, the two Raison designs - Magnum (the boat with which David won the Mini Transat in 2011) skippered by Giancarlo Pedote (Prysmian) and Maximum skippered by Davy Beaudart (Cultisol) - gave us a fine duel, way ahead of the classic hull designs.

Giancarlo, en route to qualify for the 'Route du Rhum' in Class40, won't be on the starting line of the Mini Fastnet, but Davy will use the legendary 600 nautical miles to learn from the father of these astonishing hulls.