MingMing 3

In Summary

(I) 19th century fishing boats

They weathered a gale wonderfully thanks to their deep forefoot; but every fisherman knew that it was very dangerous to sail downwind in big waves

(II) Classics forged in Finisterre, UK Lands End, summit of sailing, exemplary example "Curlew"

Triathlon: upwind, hove-to, surfing

(III) 1970-: Sailboats are neither capable of hove-to nor capable of surfing

(IV) 2000-: Impact of the MiniTransat, everyone wants to imitate the Minitransat sailboats

But

(1) their dynamic behaviour is not translatable in sailboats that hoist 10-20 square metres per ton

(2) they are not capable of hove-to

(3) the proportions of the hull (0.6-0.7 m Freeboard and 3 m Beam) are completely absurd and therefore is poor their passive safety

(4) Surfing in Big Waves is planing-Surfing but is different to planing on 'flat ground' like a motorboat or dinghy, in other words, one thing is the obsession with speed to win a regatta and another thing is having as a design objective the comfort, safety and pleasure of functionality on the high seas.
 
Last edited:
upload_2024-12-23_10-2-19.jpeg


20ft. Spitzbergen to Ushuaia.
 
A Whitehall type is not what comes to mind for that trip, but his requirements and accepting capsize to gain other benefits like speed, made it a good choice for him.
Its a big rig for a narrow unballasted boat. Well executed voyage.
 
What I found a bit disconcerting was that he wasn't wearing a dry suit.

This is the part i don't understand: he capsizes, he gets on the centerboard, he stands up the boat, he starts bailing, and a wave comes and capsizes him again... and then he sails for hours and hours soaked (!?) through the North Sea.

The times I've capsized have been in the summer (36.5 N, South of Spain) and we were wearing a T-shirt (and unfortunately not much sun protection) i mean i don't know what it's like to capsize with clothes and a oilskin that's not a dry suit; but i imagine that water gets in everywhere, or not, i don't know, it's disconcerting
 
Last edited:
Yes

Whitehall rowboat - Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehall_rowboat

Yes, seems absurd to make a sailboat from a rowboat ... But has logic

He has clearly pushed the boat beyond its limits, but has thus demonstrated the good qualities.

---

It is a rowing boat, a low-powered hull for a sailboat; but the power or ability to hold sail (Sail carrying Power) increases with the beam or by lowering the sails or moving the center of gravity to windward: the kid gets off the trapeze (!) and lowers the entire (!) mainsail and sails "jib and jigger", and the hull has very little wetted surface.

---

a disconcerting concept for those of us who like 2.5-meter-wide 'aircraft carriers', which are 'camouflaged catamarans', and on top of that, heavily ballasted with lead.

---

"Yawl", "cutter" and "sloop" were names that designated types of hull and a century later they became names for rigs.

"Yawl" was a row boat
"Cutter": deep, narrow and heavy ballasted
"Sloop": big beam

---

I love the versatility of the rig, a fundamental issue: from hoisting a lot of sail to a handkerchief
 
Last edited:
I imagine he spent a lot of time on the trapeze. He did say in another video that much footage was not filmed as he was too busy. I cant imagine he did not have a drysuit on for the passage, outside of bathroom breaks.
I had a friend sail from Falmouth to A Coruna in a Wayfarer, he wore a wetsuit for 7 days and not a pretty sight when he removed it from his own account.
Even when younger, give me a dry place to rest, this kind of sailing is too macho for me.
 

That was 6 months ago. I would love to see another update from Roger soon, but most importantly I wish him well.

For that matter I wish all of you well. I hope you are all catching some spring fever wherever you are, and we all get back out there soon enough.

Cheers
 
Jamie Kennedy 108 said:

That was 6 months ago. I would love to see another update from Roger soon, but most importantly I wish him well.

For that matter I wish all of you well. I hope you are all catching some spring fever wherever you are, and we all get back out there soon enough.

Cheers
Click to expand...
Good wishes to you also. We are catching autumn fever on this side of the equator.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
When making any potentially dangerous or financial decision, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.

    • Back
    Top