Michlet Graphics Problems

Discussion in 'Software' started by Leo Lazauskas, Oct 23, 2014.

  1. Leo Lazauskas
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    Leo Lazauskas Senior Member

    Recent changes to Windows have caused many Michlet graphic features to be
    painfully slow.
    There has been insufficient interest in Michlet to justify upgrading its graphics,
    so please consider OpenFOAM or other modern alternatives.
     
  2. patrik111
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    Compatibility modes solves part of this

    Hi,

    Trying michlet and godzilla using the compatibility (XP or Vista) modes has, at least for me, (windows 8.1) partially remedied this.

    Also switching to views showing the population of hulls "p" rather than the graphic representations of hull lines helps speed thing to what we earlier enjoyed.

    For some reason, putting the michlet/godzilla window on my second monitor of my extended desktop also seems to help significantly.

    This could also be a reason to install and run a virtual machine such as WM Player or Virtualbox with an earlier windows edition to run theese goodies.
     
  3. daiquiri
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    daiquiri Engineering and Design

    Too bad OpenFoam is not available on Windows. :eek:

    Also too bad to hear that Michlet didn't find its share in the design industry. I think that it is just a matter of a little more time. Slim, low power hulls seem to be getting en vogue again, after a century or so... ;)

    Cheers Leo!
     
  4. Leo Lazauskas
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    It is still used in many places, Slavi, but I just don't have time to upgrade the
    graphics engine, which is about 15 years old now.

    I will be releasing a fairly comprehensive rowing model in the next week or
    two which uses a better graphics engine and works well with both Win7 and
    Win8.
     
  5. NoEyeDeer
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    Sounds interesting. I'll keep an eye out for it. :)

    BTW, when you say "fairly comprehensive rowing model", is it the sort of thing that would be useful for optimising fixed seat as well as sliding seat boats?
     
  6. Leo Lazauskas
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    It is "comprehensive" in that it includes all Olympic rowing classes.
    As you will soon see, it is a very difficult program that requires a
    lot of input.

    The fixed-seat example is really just a place-holder in the current
    version. I am trying to find a good "canonical" hull to use as an
    example. I didn't want to use the Olympic adaptive classes because
    they are very specialised and not really representative of most fixed-
    seat rowing.

    The program might help you make decisions about hull choices, but it
    is not intended as an optimiser.

    I'll post the latest (beta) version later today.
     
  7. johnhazel
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    I solved my Michlet graphics issues by purchasing a windows 7 laptop (intel graphics) for $175 and donating $111 bucks to Leo via cyberaid. I highly recomend this as the right thing to do.
     
  8. Leo Lazauskas
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    Thanks for the plug, John!
    I've found a fix for most problems that involves only a line or two of code, but I have other projects I'm working on for the next few months.
     
  9. NoEyeDeer
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    Just noting that after a recent Windows update for W7, Michlet graphics now appear to be borked on W7 too.

    It's still usable, but the hull lines views take ages to render. Other screens seem pretty good.
     
  10. Leo Lazauskas
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    That's W8 for you. :(
    If you click outside the Michlet window, then back on it immediately, the lines
    will have been drawn (even if they don't appear!). You can then switch to other
    screens faster.

    FIRM doesn't have the problem because I used a more recent version of the
    graphics engine.
     
  11. NoEyeDeer
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    Handy tip on the clicking. Thanks for that. I still find Michlet useful, since Delftship will export a usable in.mlt without me having to do any work on it.
     

  12. Leo Lazauskas
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    That's what I use Delftship for too. (The table of offsets can also be used in
    FIRM.)
    Michlet also produces files (e.g. fsoff1.csv) that can be imported by Delftship.

    In Delftship, if you set the draft to the top of the offsets it sometimes gives
    0.0 for the displacement in the Michlet file it produces.
     
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