Maserati-- 70' Ocean Racing Foiler

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    RORC Carribean 600(and Antigua race)

    From Team Maserati:

    With just two days to go before the start of the RORC Caribbean 600 Race in Antigua the crew of the Italian Maserati Multi70 trimaran are closely monitoring an unusual set of weather conditions forecast for the period of the race.
    Rather than the strong prevailing trade winds characteristic of the Caribbean at this time of year, the forecasts are calling for just 10 to 12 knots of breeze for the start of the race on Monday morning.
    Drifting conditions expected over the 36 hours after the start.
    Maserati Multi70 skipper Giovanni Soldini explained the situation: «It’s frustrating,» he said. «Normally the trade winds would be blowing strongly here, but there is a low-pressure system to the north of us which has shut them off completely. The forecasts are showing winds as light as four knots during the race.»
    The light airs forecast is far from ideal for the Maserati Multi70. «We need winds above 14 knots to be competitive,» Soldini said. «In lighter winds the drag from the horizontal foil on the bottom of the central daggerboard slows us down a lot. It is important to remember that we are developing a flying boat and in light winds flying boats are slower than conventional ones.»
    Yesterday the Italian crew took part in the Antigua 360 Race – a training race around the island of Antigua. The wind for the 52-mile sprint lap was light – 12 to 13 knots – and below the Maserati Multi70 foiling threshold. Nevertheless, the crew learned valuable lessons about how best to manoeuvre the boat in these lighter conditions.
    Despite ultimately losing out on the water to the American MOD 70, Phaedo3, Soldini said there were lots of positives to take from the encounter – particularly early in the race when the L-foil allowed the boat to sail very fast windward even though the weather conditions prevented it from flying.


    NOTE: this is a major difference between Maserati and Fire Arrow because the Fire Arrow System is designed specifically to be fast throughout the wind range with enough power to fly in 5 knots of wind, an oversquare beam for power to carry sail in strong winds and an active, automatic, wand controlled main foil that can develop downforce in strong winds adding to RM.
     
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    Maserati is .2 of a mile ahead of Phaedo and 1 knot faster at 12:06PM Eastern!
    The tracker says that Maserati is in second but at the same time shows her closer to the finish and faster than Phaedo-amazing-can't rely on it I guess.....
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    UPDATE-Phaedo is ahead but Maserati is faster @ 6:03 Eastern. While the tracker has consistently shown Phaedo in the lead it has shown Maserati with less distance to the finish and greater speed for much of the day since noon?!

    Go Maserati!

    At the start(?), Maserati flying on starrrrboard tack:

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    This morning Maserati is .7 mile behind and doing 27 knots compared to Phaedo's 21.

    For a good portion of yesterday afternoon Maserati was in the lead.
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    From Scuttlebutt Europe:

    The MOD70 battle for multihull line honours has already kicked off. Lloyd Thornburg's Phaedo3 pulled away from Giovanni Soldini's Maserati at the upwind start but as the two cracked sheets at Green Island, Maserati deployed their foil and took up the lead. Two hours into the race, the two trimarans were approaching the Barbuda mark touching 18 knots of boat speed.
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    When you consider that Maserati is only using part of her foiling capability, her performance so far is very encouraging. The mods made under Guillaume Verdier's direction to her foil system including the new "Manta" main foil show great promise. So far in this race she has led some of the time - great improvement considering her situation.
    Go Maserati!
     
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    Multiple lead changes-Maserati sticking to Phaedo like glue-quite a race!

    UPDATE-5pm eastern-Maserati is 1.5m behind and faster....about to round the mark onto staaarboard tack*... Wind 10-11 knots

    *Maserati can foil on stb with 14+ knots of wind--or so....
     
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    From Team Maserati:

    After 24-hours of racing in the RORC Caribbean 600 Race the Maserati Multi70 trimaran skippered by Italian ocean racer Giovanni Soldini is locked in a fierce struggle for the lead with the race record holder Phaedo3.
    Despite being hampered by lighter winds than are optimum for their state-of-the-art flying multihull to perform at its best, Soldini and his seven-man international crew have been trading the lead back and forth with the non-foiling American MOD 70 since the race started yesterday afternoon, European time.
    Wind conditions early in the race were considerably better than the flat calms forecast for the 600-mile race around 11 of the Caribbean islands. The Maserati Multi70 crew took full advantage on the first northerly stage of the course up Barbuda, putting their boat into flying mode to blast spectacularly past their American rivals at speeds over 25 knots.
    There was nothing between the two multihulls at the Barbuda turn and the pair maintained this close formation as they scorched their way around the first half of the complex racecourse.
    When they reached Saint Martin, the most northerly extreme of the course, around midnight it was Phaedo3 that held the advantage, exiting the Anguilla Channel with a lead of around 10 minutes over Maserati Multi70.
     
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    At 6:48 eastern Phaedo is 1 mile ahead, Maserati at 29.9 knots, Phaedo at 29.7 in about a 10 knot breeze. Amazing: close to three times windspeed for both boats!

    UPDATE--after rounding the last mark the boats are on port tack which leaves Maserati unable to use her foils so Phaedo appears to be pulling away. Wind dropping from around 10 to 6 as they approach the finish-favors Phaedo.
    Great effort for Maserati-she showed her true potential with her best performance yet against Phaedo. With the dying breeze on port Phaedo will win-congratulations to them.
     
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    From Team Maserati:

    Maserati Multi70, the state-of-the-art ocean racing trimaran skippered by Giovanni Soldini, has finished in second place in the RORC Caribbean 600 Race after a race-long high-speed match race with the American trimaran, Phaedo3.
    Soldini and his seven-man international crew brought Maserati Multi70 across the finish line off Charlotte Point in Antigua at 21.33 local time Tuesday February 21, (02.33 on Wednesday 22 in Italy), 13 minutes behind Phaedo3.
    The Italian multihull completed the course in 1 day, 9 hours, 53 minutes and 55 seconds.
    Lighter, less consistent winds than are characteristic of the Caribbean at this time of year meant neither team was able to improve on the race record time of 31 hours, 59 minutes and four seconds, set by Phaedo3 in 2016.
    The Phaedo3 and Maserati Multi70 crews were locked in close combat for virtually the entire race as they matched each other’s every move around the course play for play.
    Earlier today, when Maserati Multi70 was slowed by a calm patch on the approach to Guadeloupe, Phaedo3 scooted away into a 13-mile lead – the greatest distance the two boats had been separated by since the start.
    The Italian trimaran came storming back immediately and by the next turning point – Iles des Saintes at the southern end of the racecourse – Soldini’s crew were back challenging for the lead.
    A freshening breeze for the final 100-miles of the 600-mile racecourse saw Maserati Multi70 scorch around the last two legs at over 30 knots as Soldini’s crew tried everything they knew to overtake their rivals before the finish.
    But it was not to be. When Phaedo3 was first to make the final turn around the miniscule Redonda Island and point her bows at the finish line, there were no tactical options left for the Maserati Multi70 crew to try to exploit.
    After the finish Soldini was quick to congratulate the winning crew on Phaedo3 who he said had made virtually no mistakes during the race. Exhausted but happy, the Italian skipper also paid tribute to his own crew who he said had sailed a great race.
    «We are very happy and I think we sailed a good race», Soldini said on the dock in Antigua. «We didn’t have very much time when the conditions suited us. Mostly it was around 10 knots so our foiling gear in the water slowed us down».
    «This has been an important race for us», Soldini said. «Sailing so close to Phaedo3 has allowed us to try things out and I think we have learned a lot about how to get the most out of our boat».
    On board Maserati Multi70 with skipper Giovanni Soldini for the RORC Caribbean 600 race were: Guido Broggi, Vittorio Bissaro, François Robert, Oliver Herrera, Carlos Hernandez, Francesco Malingri and Matteo Soldini.
     
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    From Martin on catsailingnews.com :

    http://www.catsailingnews.com/2017/02/mod70-caribbean-600-2017-line-honours.html

    Both teams reported close match racing mode to during the race. But the standard platform MOD70 Phaedo 3 prevailed. Half foiling tack for Maserati is not giving them any advantage, so we'll have to wait for them to equip again both amas with flying foils.

    The racing foil vs floating discussion is already over, the aspect to see here on the MOD70s is which foiling setup is the right for the 70' Trimarans, and based on results and reports from the race, Maserati central T + amas T rudders + amas L/V foils are not adding performance if we analyze by simple logic that they should have an advantage when sailing on the foiling tack and at least maintain standard MOD70 perf on the opposite one. This taking apart any navigation consideration, which anyway is reported by both camps to be head to head. [/COLOR]

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    This is so very wrong!
    1) Maserati was very fast on stb tack when her foiling system was able to work. It wouldn't have taken much research to find that Giovanni Soldini said that they need at least 14 knots of wind to be competitive. Most of this race was sailed in 6-10 knots! And Maserati was able to stay close to Phaedo on both tacks for most of the race sometimes actually getting in front. The missing rudder T-foil is a big handicap but even without it they were very close to Phaedo.
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    2) In the second paragraph there is a basic misunderstanding by Martin of how this system works. The only time the "Manta" foil is effective for foiling is on starboard tack when it works with the ama "L" foil(installed at an angle so it works like an uptip foil when immersed) and rudder T-foil. It MUST have a rudder T foil to work with or it will be unstable. On port tack(in any condition) the rudder T-foil is missing so the Manta foil is just drag-it can not be used for lift!
     
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    Very interesting shot here from the 600 start-Phaedo has a canting mast!


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    From Scuttlebutt tonight:

    February 22, 2017) – While the multihull race record was not broken this year, Phaedo3 and Maserati had an incredible 600 mile high-speed duel. Lloyd Thornburg’s MOD70, Phaedo3 finished the 2017 RORC Caribbean 600 on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 21 hrs 20 mins 46 secs AST, taking Multihull Line Honors.

    Phaedo3 held on to win the battle of the trimarans, just 12 minutes ahead of Giovanni Soldini’s Italian MOD70, Maserati. The high-speed battle saw the lead change hands at least four times during the race. The winning crew is Lloyd Thornburg (Skipper), Brian Thompson (Co-skipper), Paul Allen, Peter Cumming, Michel Desjoyeaux, Robert Greenhalgh, Damian Foxall and Miles Seddon.

    The experimental semi-foiling Maserati showed incredible speed on a reach and it took a momentous effort from Phaedo3’s well-established team to hold off the challenge. There was high drama at Guadeloupe with vicious squalls and heroics from Maserati’s crew diving into the water to free the boat from a fish trap.

    Once back on the dock in Antigua, Lloyd Thornburg, skipper of the American boat Phaedo3, summed up the race, “Maserati gave us a heck of a run and it was really tough to stay ahead of a foiling boat. They kept coming at us with more pressure and they definitely have more speed at certain angles. The run down to Redonda was a real nail-biter and we knew that after that, the beat home would be in our favor and to cross the line ahead was just awesome.

    Every year, I get reminded how insane a race this is and after this race, our navigator Miles Seddon said to me that we have turned the insanity up again this year. You never get used to this race – hanging on reaching at 36 knots, it is just incredible. All of our team had to dig so deep and we love Antigua and had an amazing reception.”


    This year’s RORC Caribbean 600 proved to be a MOD70 match race around the 600 mile course for Giovanni Soldini’s MOD70, Maserati (ITA) and Lloyd Thornburg’s Phaedo3 (USA)
    Brian Thompson, Co-Skipper of Phaedo3, commented on the unusual wind direction that had been predicted before the start, “We had a lot more wind speed for the race, which was a surprise. Off Guadeloupe we had huge rainsqualls that are really quite dangerous in a MOD70 and we had 30 knots of wind from nowhere and shifting 50 degrees in seconds, with Maserati pushing us all the way. The big gennaker stayed up and we had to put in a few big bear-away maneuvers to avoid capsize.

    With the strange wind direction, we had to really think on our feet. It was an amazing race with Maserati though, and we got away several times, but they always caught us up. Right near the start they went blasting past us flying through the air, hooting and hollering and waving at us. That is what they had come for and they have learnt a lot about foiling a MOD.”


    Maserati skipper, Giovanni Soldini was full of praise for both his Maserati team and their rivals Phaedo3. The Italian MOD70 has an experimental foil enabling them to literally fly when the boat is on starboard, but not when they are on port, enabling them to give Phaedo3 a really close fight.

    “Phaedo are a very, very good team. They have known the boat for many years, whereas we are just beginning to get to know ours. We really flew a few times and we were able to play with Phaedo and I am really pleased with my crew, as they were fantastic. At the start of the last leg, we were just a minute behind. We have learnt a lot by racing with Phaedo and so we are improving our performance. Our dream was to make a MOD70 fly and in a couple of months we will have foils on both sides and life will be much more simple,” Soldini said.

    Maserati’s race was not without incident. “When we were past La Desirade we caught a buoy on the rudder but we didn’t realize until near Barbuda,” explains Soldini. Carlos Hernadez heroically jumped into the water when it was blowing 20 knots and the boat would not stop, so he had to swim very fast!”
     
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    Great video from catsailingnews.com showing Phaedo and Maserati. Two shots of Maserati in the lead and good shots of Phaedo's canting rig:
    https://vimeo.com/205683637
     

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    Canting rigs are standard on MOD70's, not sure why they are not using it on Maserati.
     
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