Marine Designer for hire

Discussion in 'Services & Employment' started by CgarciaDesign, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. CgarciaDesign
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    CgarciaDesign Junior Member

    Cgarciadesign is offering design services. Fort Lauderdale based company with 8+ yrs experience. Well versed in Rhino and AutoCAD 2015.

    Specializing in 2D 3D modeling and Render & Animations for Marine & Industrial Design.

    Online portfolio available at www.coroflot.com/cgarciadesign

    Regards,
    Christopher G
     
  2. tom kane
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    tom kane Senior Member

    Could you design a lift-able shaft drive propulsion for boats under 20 feet.?
    Based on the pivotal drive discussed on this web site. Search Pivotal Drive or Cam.A.propulsion.
    Perhaps you are only involved in hull design not the mechanics of propulsion.
     
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  3. CgarciaDesign
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    CgarciaDesign Junior Member

    Tom, appreciate your responce. Yes I believe I may be able to help. Please email me directly to discuss your project.

    Thanks,
    Chris
     
  4. Alik
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    Alik Senior Member

    Just curious: why use this type of hull shape Your sailing cat? Sharp chine with cine flats, asymmetrical split hull?
    http://www.coroflot.com/Cgarciadesign/Marine

    Used to be hull shape for 40+ knots....
    Something new in catamaran design? Am I missing something?

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  5. tom kane
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    Hi Chris, Because the liftable shaft is such a simple design and can be built in so many ways and requires nothing not already available to build a basic model other than a working drawings for some one interested enough to build.
    I was thinkig along the lines of an on website discussion and plan creation supported by input from forum members.
    If there was enough interest to create a demand for a ready made manufactured standard or custom model for public sale that would require a lot more negotations and discussions. Thank`s for your reply and suggestions are welcome.
     
  6. CgarciaDesign
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    Alik. Thanks for your question. As my builder relayed to me many multihulls are coming out with Hard chined hulls and since this is a foil assisted planing motorsailor a hard chine hull is quite practical and efficient.
     
  7. Alik
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    Alik Senior Member

    Nonsense...
     
  8. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    "foil assisted planing motorsailor" Now that is a few misnomers in a row.
     
  9. Ad Hoc
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    Ad Hoc Naval Architect

    Well can you expect any technical understanding when all they do is :rolleyes::

    :eek::eek::eek:
     
  10. Alik
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    Alik Senior Member

    This means the topic starter should say he is draftsman or 3D modeller, not designer. Designer should at least have some understanding on what he is designing!

    This is common problem of misusing the word 'designer'; they are so 'creative' and 'think out of the box'.
     
  11. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Well designer is a pretty broad term, much like an expert.
     
  12. Grey Ghost
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    In the automotive sector design often refers to styling because car makers have to sell more cars than people actually need. “Design” is to make people want a new car by its appearance and then the automotive engineers make it work. The same with industrial design where a coffee pot is sold by how it looks in the kitchen more than how good the coffee is which is usually the same as any other coffee pot. Or stoves with fancy materials and sleek surfaces which make buyers spend $1000 because the new design makes the old one appear "outdated". It cooks the same and for function people would only need to buy one in a lifetime and replace the coils.

    “Automotive design reached a turning point in 1942 when the American national automobile market began reaching saturation. To maintain unit sales, General Motors head Alfred P. Sloan Jr. suggested annual model-year design changes to convince car owners that they needed to buy a new replacement each year. Henry Ford did not like the model-year change because he clung to an engineer's notions of simplicity, economics of scale, and design integrity. GM surpassed Ford's sales in 1931, and became the dominant company in the industry thereafter. The frequent design changes also made it necessary to use a body-on-frame rather than the lighter, but less flexible, monocoque design used by most European automakers. A major influence on American auto styling and marketing was Harley Earl, who brought the tailfin and other aeronautical design references to auto design starting with the rear fenders of the 1948 Cadillac. Another notable designer was Chrysler group's designer Virgil Exner, who developed the Forward look design in mid-1950s. Exner is also credited with using used wind tunnel testing to move the company away from boxy-looking cars into more aerodynamic designs. Raymond Loewy was responsible for a number of Studebaker vehicles, including the Starlight (including the bullet-nose).”
     
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  13. Alik
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    Grey Ghost, exactly true, but does it work for boats or airplanes? I am sure it does not. Unlike car or coffee cup, design of boats needs knowledge that is outside of average industrial designer's experiences. Nobody argues this for airplanes; but for boats still many 'designers' think such approach is possible. If it floats it is a boat, and who cared about performance and seakeeping? Not the novice buyer!

    Today's motoryacht is a shaped fiberglass box designed to accommodate desired furniture and sometimes carry it on the hump of resistance. This is what the market is today. So we are forced to see such nonsense as on the picture above, at any boat show we see boats with their bows shaped to fit master beds! Mass consumer world...
     
  14. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    I disagree Alik, the industry clearly does use designers to "soften up" the hard crisp, edges of the engineers efforts, so it's more palatable to prospective buyers. In fact, in large projects or manufacturing settings, the general design work is done first, to get a feel for the way the boat will look and the technical stuff is made to fit. Once the technical side is near completion, the designers come back in and make sure the styling clues resemble model, family and brand "keys" and the appointments are appropriate fro the product line.

    In a smaller shop the NA will usually be skilled enough to incorporate brand identity, while larger shops will use a team of NA's, engineers, designers and stylists to insure the product line maintains the family resemblance. Can't you picture a guy, standing over 3 different shades of light blue, for a half hour, trying to "get a feel for which is right". These guys usually speak with a lisp and often piss off an engineer, because they've insisted the fishing rod and beer can holder box, penetrate the carefully crafted and insulated, engine exhaust hose routing tunnel.
     

  15. Alik
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    Alik Senior Member

    You made it right - the designers should work as part of team. But not allowed to create concept on their own; this way the design goes to hell.
     
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