Manie's TEN

Discussion in 'Boatbuilding' started by Manie B, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. Manie B
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    Manie B Senior Member

    Dries the epoxy is good, just the slow hardener is very slow, better get the fast.
     

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  2. DriesLaas
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    Hi Manie,
    Thanks I have now been using the Ampreg for a while, it is very good stuff.
    You may want to consider doing the postcure at 50 deg C , as this improves the strength AND the elongation to break a lot. That will make the whole structure a lot more damage tolerant. A simple gas space heater and a plastic tent is the way we used to do it, it works well and is cheap.

    What are you going to do with all that space in your workshop?

    How are things going with FARGO ?
     
  3. Manie B
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    The TEN was turned over and I am working on the interior. I have many cool pictures that I will post within the next fortnight, but here is a link of a very cool model sailboat that I just wanted to share with the guys that enjoy minimalist ideas. Anthony spotted it on Duckworks.

    https://www.facebook.com/Satosamicroyachts?ref=hl
     
  4. RHP
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    Hey Manie,

    I see in that link there is a picture of Roger Taylor's MING MING II, an Achilles 24 with junk rig that he has sailed up to arctic waters, as is his kink. I have an Achilles 24 as well, my second in fact. At 24' she is as minimalist as I intend to go, she's big enough to sail well at 19'6" on the waterline and 1,200kgs unloaded weight, drawing 3'3" with a triple keel. I wouldn't hesitate to sail her across an ocean, she is more capable than I, at least one sailed to NZ from the UK and one did an Atlantic circuit.

    This weekend I will finish refitting her interior, new hull lining vinyl throughout, stripped and revarnished woodwork. New interior cushion linings, new depth/log, new outboard (wanted an 8hp 2 stroke Tohatsu but they had just sold their last one in stock so they gave me a 9.8hp for the same price... nice). New Schaefer 700 roller furler (no more plastic French cr@p) and will order a new set of sails from Rolly Tasker in Thailand after Christmas. She looks the dog's bowlocks, and should outlast me.

    Small boats are great, just don't make them toooo small.... :D
    Richard
     

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  5. Manie B
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  6. Theotilus
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    old post

    Hi Manie,
    Read a post of yours back in 2009 which showed a picture of a small power
    cat that you recommended as a small liveaboard cruiser. Do you remember the
    design or make of that particular boat. I think it would be a great boat for the San Juan Islands in Washington, USA.

    Thanks
    Ted
     
  7. Manie B
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  8. Theotilus
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    older post

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    Hi Manie,

    Here is the picture from your older post. Maybe this will jog your memory.
    I'm looking at the Jarcat boats - they look promising. Thanks for the
    suggestion.
     
  9. Manie B
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    that is actually my friends boat that is still in regular use to this very day
    he had 2x 50hp Evinrude Etec motors
    but they got tired
    and he now has 2x 60hp Mercury 4stroke motors

    the boat is just fantastic to this very day
     
  10. Theotilus
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    Manie,

    Thanks for the reply. Do you recall the design, make, or builder. Any info on this particular boat would be greatly appreciated.

    Ted
     
  11. Manie B
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    Ted, it is a "one-off" that was specially built for my friend
    they were hoping to get further sales but the crash of 2008/9 ended all hopes of that
    for a dam like ours (Vaaldam) it is a brilliant boat
     
  12. MoeJoe
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    Hi Manie, happy birthday.

    About your AIT - Do you consider it "unsinkable"? Does it have sufficient flotation to handle a hole in the bottom? Watertight storage areas, system for hatches & ventilation, bilge pumps etc, would be interesting to hear more about the planned setup around that area.
     
  13. Manie B
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    MoeJoe,
    thanks for the birthday wishes :) 62 years young today :)

    I will start to reveal a bit more about the TEN over the next couple of weeks
    but for now I can say that I have a very enthusiastic partner in the project and we have a VERY STRONG BUDGET for the entire project.

    The interior is complete and I am busy sealing everything in epoxy and then to do the painting. Once the painting is complete inside I will publish the next blog post with some really nice pictures. Then the boat will be turned over and I will start with the "outside hull" and keel.

    To answer your question, yes the boat is unsinkable.
    Keep in mind that it is a double hull and both "hull skins" are glassed inside and out. The hull "core" is 70mm thick foam floatation and the total hull thickness will be around 80mm. This will result in 110% floatation. The deck and roof will be 60mm thick also filled with foam floatation. Obviously the double skin hull has improved safety a lot. There will be 2 electric bilge pumps and 1 whale hand pump.

    The boat is strong and unsinkable AND with that amount of floatation you also have a very high insulation value against the cold. All windows will be double glazed and the hatches will be well insulated. I have designed a very neat 12v air extraction system so that all air that you breathe out with the high moisture content is expelled. I am more comfortable with 12v fans than dorade vents.
     
  14. Manie B
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    Just a sneak peek :)
    you can see the 2 interior hatches to keep the bed dry
    and the back hatch makes a nice table

    281 building hours up to now
    keep in mind you can double that if you take planning and running around for materials into consideration

    you wont build a TEN if you are not 100% committed
    and of course having a very nice sponsored budget is fantastic :D:D:D
     

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  15. WindRaf
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    great job, Manie
     
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