Look at What Happens to Peaceful Protesters in the States

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  1. Leo Lazauskas
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    But they will still vote for the one of the stooges that the major parties put up for election.
     
  2. CatBuilder

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    Well, they weren't as large as the "occupiers" across the country (in my recollection). However, in New York City, they were, I'd guess, twice the size or more. They filled Times Square and several surrounding blocks. There was no violence against them and few arrests.
     
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    The UN investigating the police departments of American cities? Sure.... that'll happen. It's not like there's anything happening elsewhere in the world to keep 'em busy..

    Let's keep a sense of proportion here folks, and not over-dramatize things. How many Occupy protesters have died at the hands of policemen or the military? Last time I checked, the answer was still "none." Meanwhile, about 4000 protesters have been killed in Syria during the last few months.
     
  4. Boston

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    give it time troy, give it time. I'm betting by the resumption of protests in earnest your going to see an escalation of the police violence. This is just the beginning.

    the movement has taken its first real hit, now we are recovering and making plans to come back even stronger. This isn't over by a long shot. And yes we need a contingency plan for the inevitability of protester deaths. We are working on a multi pronged response to the assaults on peaceful protesters. And we expect in turn the police will not respond well to that plan.

    its not the army that maintains our freedoms, its us. The army, the police, the politicians are the ones taking our freedoms and we want them back

    Now

    if thats overly dramatic then so be it, I say let the revolution begin
     
  5. Boston

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    word from the street is that about a thousand folks showed up but only about 75 stayed. Not sure if they marched again but it would be the first sat they didn't if not.

    Also the food drive is back on in full force. We feed anyone who comes by. Including the homeless. They seem to have given up on ticketing people who honk ( I sure honk my *** off on the way by ) or who stop to drop off food and clothing. We also offer free clothing to anyone in need. They also seem to have given up on ticketing for blocking the sidewalk or for being in the park. Something tells me that the recall drive might have had something to do with that.

    so whats the real unemployment rate

    http://patriotupdate.com/14035/what-is-the-real-unemployment-rate
     
  6. CatBuilder

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    An interesting development, regarding the checking of police by the UN... along those lines.

    I just heard on the news today (regular news) that Amnesty International has called for the arrest of George Bush Jr. if he travels to Africa on a planned trip for charity he has coming up.

    The quote from the Amnesty International said, "He authorized torture. Nobody gets a free pass on torture, even if they are a powerful man from a powerful country."

    Thought that was interesting.

    I still don't see George Jr as an evil guy though for some reason. He always seemed more like the guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was drafted by the Republican party. He didn't want to be there. :)

    Obama too. Seems like he was probably just outside the senate smoking a cigarette when the Democrats ambushed him and convinced him to run. :)
     
  7. Boston

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    there's several countries that have called for his arrest, Switzerland being one I think,

    looks like ole Reorge wont be going abroad for a while
     
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    George Bush is heading to Ethiopia, Tanzania and Zambia this week to raise awareness about cervical and breast cancer and HIV/AIDS, and none of those countries are going to arrest him. They don't take orders from Amnesty International -- any more than Canada did, when Bush visited there a while back.

    I don't think there's a government in the world stupid enough to follow through on arresting and attempting to try a former American President for his actions while in office, although there may be a grandstanding judge or two who would issue a warrant.

    George Bush is high on the list of ex-Presidents I despise. But lets get real here, shall we? It would be a frosty day in Hell before I'd approve of a foreign government putting him on trial. Our Presidents answer to the American people and our own courts, not to some two-bit judge in Tanzania or Ethiopia.
     
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    I repeat: grandstanding. Do you really think the government of Switzerland would be willing to take the financial hit that would result from such an action? Please.... they've survived all these centuries by remaining rigidly neutral, not by charging into the midst of political squabbles.

    Listen to their own spokesman, as quoted in your first link.
    Looks to me like it was the potential for demonstrations turning violent that influenced Bush's cancellations, not the threat of legal action.
     
  11. Dave Gudeman
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    And why should anyone listen to mobs? The US is a republic, not a mob-ocracy. If there are enough of them to win at the ballot box then they can have their way. Otherwise they don't. That's the way a republic works.
     
  12. CatBuilder

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    WTF are you even talking about? :confused:

    I'm talking to Leo about how we also had protesters in the States at the time he was mentioning. Your post doesn't even make sense in that context. Nobody said anything about mobs or that people should listen to them. Are you drunk?

    But let me guess... aside from being drunk, you are also pro-wars, but anti spending, right?

    Having your cake and eating it too?
     
  13. Leo Lazauskas
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    I very much doubt that you could get to a total of 4000 if you added all the deaths in protests and riots in the US over the last 200 years. (Unless you stretch it and include your Civil War as a protest movement.)
     
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    You're aware that even one is exactly one two many if they are standing on "moral Ground". Despite every attempt Jesus Christ hasn't been wiped or cleansed from the historical records. And I'm one in believing they've sincerely tried. :rolleyes:
     

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    And your point is...? I repeat: so far, the fatality rate from the Occupy movement is exactly zero. Considering the number of protesters involved, I'd say that represents some genuine restraint on the part of local governments and their police departments.

    Personally, I tend to sympathize with the protesters; they have some legitimate beefs. But that doesn't mean I think they don't have their heads up their tails.... And I believe it's almost obscene for propagandists to try portraying them as martyrs, given the number of protesters around the world who have actually died this year in countries with repressive governments.
     
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