Longitudinal frame twisting and different kind of holes in transverse frames

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  1. gonzo
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    gonzo Senior Member

    I understand what you are saying now.
     
  2. Waterwitch
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    Waterwitch Senior Member

    My rule of thumb for mouse holes is reality based having cut them in steel plates, I beam and angle bar ends building ship structure. We have no idea of the scale of
    the OP's hypothetical design to say how big of a mouse hole.
     
  3. Ad Hoc
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    Ad Hoc Naval Architect

    As already noted, the mouse at the base, is to allow the welder to perform a return around the web. This prevents cracking, if left as a stop/start at the end of the mouse hole.

    As an extreme example, not performing returns, can lead to cracking in other locations too, like here:
    upload_2025-2-5_13-50-51.png

    In general mouse holes/cutouts are not to be greater than 50% of the web depth, it is passing through.

    As for shapes and guidelines, there are many, such as:
    DNV's
    upload_2025-2-5_13-51-51.png

    LRs
    upload_2025-2-5_13-52-30.png

    And you also need to be careful when creating the shape of the mouse hole and its objective, since this relates to cracking from fatigue.
    Such as:
    upload_2025-2-5_13-54-4.png

    It is a very very deep rabbit hole, if you wish to go down this route.
    Viz:-
    upload_2025-2-5_14-6-48.png
     
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  4. Joonatan
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    Joonatan New Member

    Thank you very much for this more detailed answer!
     
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