Life is too short to fair above the waterline

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Lachie, Mar 19, 2021.

  1. Owly
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    Owly Senior Member

    One benefit of looking "shabby" or sustainably shabby is not being a "target" for thieves.
     
  2. aussiebushman
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    Nice idea Owly but in my painful experience, the ******** will strip anything they can find to pay for their next fix. My trimaran was stripped before being torched
     
  3. Will Gilmore
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    That worked for my bicycle when I was a kid, but most of those types of crimes are crimes of opportunity. Which boat looks easier to rob, the shabby neglected one that might have something to hock on board or the pristine $500,000 yacht sporting a "This vessel is protected by..." sticker on the window? Certainly there's more likely to be higher rewards on the latter, but more effort and more danger too.

    -Will
     
  4. Owly
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    There could be a whole thread on the various ways people have found to thwart thieves. My favorite deterrent for "undesirables" is electricity. Extremely high powered electric fencers exist that run on very little wattage, and in many cases are built with onboard solar. Some of the Aussie fencers long range are so vicious that if you tangle with one, your arm is useless for the rest of the day.........I once built an electric mouse trap using a bank of motor start capacitors charging on DC using a voltage doubling rectifier circuit that gave me 280 charging volts from line voltage......... Sounded like a pistol shot when it went off!! It would blow feet and legs off mice... a bit extreme! However if you've ever been tangled up in an electric fence, you'll not have a difficult time imagining a junkie grabbing a hot lifeline from a RIB!
     
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  5. Will Gilmore
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    Be careful, though. The local fire chief answered a call once for a dumpster that was on fire. The owner had wired it to his house electric against bears. It killed the bear and caught on fire. What if it wasn't a bear that it zapped:eek:.
     
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  6. Owly
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    Electric fencers do not normally set fires........... who in their right mind would call the fire dept in such a situation???? Most folks have a garden hose. I use mains current on problem dogs at times, but it's on a "trigger" I control..... They don't come back!! If a junkie grabs your lifelines and gets zapped and drowns...... so be it. Poke a hole in the RIB... or whatever, and let the body drift away. Electric fences are legal as far as I know. There are hundreds of them here........... You have it for "seal protection". One less junkie...... a better way to go (lungs full of water) than an OD.
     
  7. Owly
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    There should be a complete thread on deterrent systems. The late Patrick Childress did a Utube on piracy deterrent using flares.
     
  8. Burger
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    That would be Murder One, possibly Murder Two, and Fail to Report a fatality. Probably a few more electrical-safety related charges too. You could do a minimum of 10 years jail.
    You'd be taking a human life to protect a few hundred dollars worth of boat stuff. You might be killing the guy who's come to save your boat when it's dragged anchor.

    Maybe just get a few sturdy padlocks?
     
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  9. Owly
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    It would be neither........ Electric fences are completely legal and used everywhere, You presumably are not on the boat.... and a jolt from a fencer does not incapacitate someone.... probably would not result in a drowning, nor would you likely know that had happened if it had. A normal person gets bitten and jerks back from the jolt... a strung out junkie... who knows?? If you come back to your boat some night and find a dinghy tied to it and nobody around, what do you do? Call the law and get into the middle of an investigation? or get rid of the dinghy.... push it off and let it drift elsewhere and say nothing is probably the most sensible course. Locks are said to be for keeping "honest" people honest..... If they want in, they will get in. I guess thieves and vandals, rapists, **********, terrorists, and others of their ilk do qualify as "human life", but I put a negative value on such creatures. I've been bitten by these electric fencers many times, nor would I hesitate to use one to protect my property. It is not illegal anywhere I know of......... I wouldn't wire up line current, which would be both extremely dangerous and illegal. I haven't lived in an urban area... or even close to one in about 40 years, but when I did, I was robbed at the point of a switchblade a number of times as well as being burgled a time or two. I have a total contempt for that kind of trash. I work for the things I have with my hands... literally... something anybody who is capable of robbery could do.... Not all garbage is recyclable!!
     
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