Last voyage for Costa Concordia cruise ship

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by daiquiri, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. El_Guero

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    Pure genius!
     
  2. troy2000
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    A news article I read mentioned that Dockwise Vanguard will have to be modified before it can carry the Concordia, but didn't give any details.
     
  3. El_Guero

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    Troy,

    They are laying a wooden deck, 5 feet I think, above the deck to protect it.
     
  4. Heiwa
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    Heiwa Naval architect

    After up righting they were supposed to fit four sponsoon tanks on port side and then another 15 tanks on the starboard side ... all 10-25 meters underwater ... but it seems the bow is falling off so the 450 salvage workers fit something right now to prevent that. And to fit 15 tanks on the starboard side, the 450 salvage workers have to repair the starboard side too ... 10-25 meters underwater. It is today very easy to inspect the whole damaged underwater hull for fractures, etc. The up right wreck rests on six platforms port side and on 20 000 tons of grout bags and on granite rocks starboard side but you can see most of the bottom. The 9 000 tons bow part rests on nothing after up righting and flips up down. It is not easy to salvage a heap of scrap total loss rubbish. More at http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news811.htm .
     
  5. El_Guero

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    It was total rubbish the day the ship went down.

    At least now, they are cleaning up the mess.
     
  6. Heiwa
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    Heiwa Naval architect

    The heap of scrap is still there stuck on the bottom, just rotated 68° to port, getting damaged in the bottom. The mess is worse than before.
    And it will probably become worse. :p
     
  7. El_Guero

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    Then go help them.

    You can be the solution, subject matter expert, or the problem.
     
  8. Heiwa
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    Heiwa Naval architect

    The salvage company T/M has a web page but do not reply to emails. Interestingly there are no photos, videos, survey reports, etc, available about the condition of the CC hull underwater after capsize 14 January 2012. You would expect such info must have been made available for salvage companies to bid and for underwriters to judge the condition of the wreck and possibility to salvage but none seems to exist.
    Also strange is that similar info - photos, videos, survey reports, etc, available about the condition of the CC hull underwater after parbuckling 16 September 2013 is not available. I would expect that the hull was further damaged then. It seems the bow is flipping up/down and that T/M tries to secure it to avoid it dropping off. T/M also says that they will repair the starboard side so that 15 float tanks can be fitted there. It sounds crazy. It seems there is little activity at the wreck today. I wonder what the 450+ salvage workers are doing. Any idea?
     
  9. michael pierzga
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    Perhaps legal issues.

    Also Copyright.

    After the salvage a book will be written.

    Why prejudice book sales with free info now.

    Think of the salvage of the nuclear sub kursk. The salvage companies page has been taken down. Google for info and you will pull up

    Amazon dotcom...salvage of the kursk
     
  10. Heiwa
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    Heiwa Naval architect

    Legal issues? Anybody can dive at Isola del Giglio and film the wreck.
    Copy right? OK, sell your photos for a fee.
    A book will be written? By whom? Nick?
    Who will read that book? My web page is quite popular. >400 visits/day. All free.
    Kursk? Warship! Cut in two at bottom of sea and aft end with nuclear propulsion plant brought ashore. Fwd end with big hole in side left. No big deal. Easy to go there and have a look.
    Question remains if T/M can lift CC next year. I doubt it.
     
  11. michael pierzga
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    Who owns the CC ?

    The salvage company ?
     
  12. powerabout
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    I doubt it, i'll bet the insurance company that just put up Carnivals premiums if the have an Italian Captain
     
  13. Heiwa
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    Heiwa Naval architect

    CC is owned by Costa cruise lines, Genoa that is owned by Carnival Corp., Miami. It is Costa that appointed T/M to salvage the ship in 10 months for $300M so it could be repaired. H&M underwriters and the P&I clubs just pay Costa's expenses. I wonder why. Maybe they don't understand the rules involved?
     
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    Most likely two factors are at play here #1--Removal of human remains and valuables, #2 Assessment to allow further engineering for the second stage of salvage now that the original and added first stage salvage damage can be more clearly seen. After the amazing high stakes challenge they have just successfully overcome I doubt that they are overly concerned about what's ahead. Now that the wreck is quasi stabilized and they have a little breathing room, I would speculate that engineering for maximum profit while still obtaining a high percentage for success is foremost at this point in time. To further speculate, The big salvage debate being, shall we cut her up in sections on site or move her whole.

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  15. Heiwa
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    Heiwa Naval architect

    If I understand about the few parbucklings having been done in the past (1 in 67 years?), then the ships had capsized away from shore/quays and were then rotated back upwards towards the shore/quay, where the wrecks were then cut up or whatever.
    This CC 2013 show was the other way around. T/M put some platforms underwater (we are told) outside the wreck and away from the shore and the wreck with human remains was rotated away outwards to land on the platforms. No underwater photos of the CC wreck on any platform is available. We only know that that the CC now heels a little away from shore and that the loose 9000 tons bow flips up and down.
    It doesn't look good.
     
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