Last voyage for Costa Concordia cruise ship

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  1. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Looked up those images and attached them as this is intersting . . . . :idea:

    The intact stabilizer and the big gash aft of it shows the ship not grazed the rock but took a huge side impact in a big sideway motion of the stern towards the rock . . . . . . .

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    His correction seems just as stupid as going there in the first place . . :mad:

    ‘‘ Schettino ordered the wheel to be turned “full to the right” and called for the engines to be thrown in “full reverse”, but it was too late. ’’

    Large forward motion + full reverse power + wheel full to starboard = huge stern swing to port, towards the rock . . :(

    Maybe he had missed the rock or just grazed, and loose the stabilizer, if he had throttled down and turned the wheel half of max to starboard . . :cool:

    Use of bow and stern thrusters* full to starboard sure would also have helped . . :idea:

    * if always on stand by for immediate use - who knows that . . ? ?

    Cheers,
    Angel

    P.S. - See post#742, and further, for an explanation which elaborate on this issue.
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  2. Tug
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    Tug Junior Member

    Italian Cruise ship captain Francesco Schettino began his new job as a bus driver yesterday
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  3. Minusadegree
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    We could see new software in cruise ships that alert the top officers in charge of the ship when the current course will deviate from the approved course in x-minutes and then the catch all alert to all ie; top officers of vessel, coast guard and the cruise ship owners when the position is out of preapproved course margins.

    This I think would be an effective solution.
     
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  4. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Twin props, is that counter-rotating props . . ? ?

    Cheers,
    Angel
     
  5. Gian Milan

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    go to 690
     
  6. Mr Efficiency
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    From "The Wit and Wisdom of Winston Churchill" by James C. Humes:

    Late in his life, Sir Winston took a cruise on an Italian ship. A journalist from a New York newspaper approached the former prime minister to ask him why he chose to travel on an Italian line when the Queen Elizabeth under the British flag was available.

    Churchill gave the question his consideration and then gravely replied: "There are three things I like about Italian ships. First, their cuisine, which is unsurpassed. Second, their service, which is quite superb. And then — in time of emergency — there is none of this nonsense about women and children first."
     
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  7. Gian Milan

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    English old sponge!:(
     
  8. peter radclyffe
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  9. Gian Milan

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  10. Mr Efficiency
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    Another story about Churchill concerns a very large debt he had owing to a Monte Carlo casino. Churchill raked together enough to pay up, but the casino owner never cashed the cheque. And Gian, his reputation is really founded on oratory, certainly not as a military genius, with the unfortunate adventures of the Turkish campaign of WW1, and his enthusiasm for the attack on the "soft underbelly" of Italy quickly becoming the "tough old gut" debacle.
     
  11. Gian Milan

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    at dardanelli
    if i remember ok
     
  12. Gian Milan

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    Any case, Facts are facts. It is undeniable the behavior of South Italians; they are so made. It's very difficult to see change a people.
    The Germans, for example, cannot disobey an order. If on Concordia are dead so many Germans, may be they have obeyed to revert back to the cabins.
    Here we're pretty plagued by this tremendous suspicion. they have obeyed orders and are dead!
     
  13. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    thrusters have little or no effect at speed

    Means 2 conventional props each mounted on it's own shaft and independently powered...conventional twin screw
     
  14. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    Churchill gave the question his consideration and then gravely replied: "There are three things I like about Italian ships. First, their cuisine, which is unsurpassed. Second, their service, which is quite superb. And then — in time of emergency — there is none of this nonsense about women and children first."
     

  15. Submarine Tom

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    Perhaps those stabilizers were retracted at time of initial contact/impact.

    -Tom
     
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