Katie-J´s refit

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  1. voodoochile
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    Hello to all
    This is Katie-J a Pioneer 9 built in 1962.
    She lives in Macau (near Hong Kong) and i just bough her. I got in touch with a former onwer who told me she was originally named Zeeschal (sea shell) and built in Zandhoven.
    Until now i thought she was built in the UK by Southern Ocean Shipyards, and I'm thinking that the fact the she was built in Holland might make her one of the initial hulls ever produced.

    The refit started in 202o, so all is this is in the past, do comment but have that in mind.
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    Gutting theV berth
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    This molded floor piece was also removed, gained a lot of space by removing it
     

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  2. voodoochile
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    old water tank removal
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  3. voodoochile
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    locker lid install
    2 years later and this was a mistake as you will see in future posts. the cockpit now has a different arrangements and solutions in place
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    Chainplates redesign
    The original ones are those U shape, thru deck, bolts. which bolt on the wooden sheerclamp. so, obviously this leads to water ingress and rot. its a neat solution but not that maintenance and inspection friendly.
    WhatsApp Image 2020-11-15 at 21.15.25.jpeg

    so i got to redesign them on Cad
    this is the first iteration
    Chainplates superimposed to G10 board area ( yellow) and biaxial cloth (green)
    chainplates G10 and fibreglass.png
    not that bad for a first though, but i didnt like the shape. structurally this would have worked but then there are aesthetics considerations one should think about (not that i place looks above function, that will kill you actually) (in more than one way hahahahaha)

    REDESIGNED MIDDLE CHAIN PLATE.png
    here i had altered the mid chainplate (bigger one, staying the main, 6mm, shrouds), in green you have the main bulkhead position and thickness (18 mm ply)

    but i stil wasnt happy with it
    so i ended up with this design
    chainplate design.png
    The circles you see are:
    yellow= M10 bolt hole
    green= M10 bolt head diameter
    red= M10 washer diameter

    i chose this option because it allows me to streamline everything along the sheerline, avoiding ugly down angled tangs coming out of it., plus all of this will be hidden with the rubstrake
     

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    sheerclamp spot rot removal and rebuild
    the thing about Pioniers 9 is that everything bolts on the sheerclamp: the toerail, the rubrail, the rig anchor points, the sail track. again, an elegant solution but a long term potential nightmare
    this boat has been repainted several times, so the only to really see what happening is to sand all that paint away
    6 (1).jpeg
    the dark spots tells of water intrusion.
    you can also see what ive done: i drilled out everything, enlarged the holes and filled with thickened epoxy

    1 (1).jpeg
    6.jpeg
    after removing a section of original sheerclamp. the amount of holes!

    G10 insertion
    i replaced all the removed wooden sections with 3 x 6mm G10 boards, laminated over with, then glued up a 30mm thick G10 as a backplate for the chainplates, and then laminated 4 layers of biax on top of everything, we dont want that going anywhere.
    WhatsApp Image 2022-01-11 at 20.44.41.jpeg

    here you see the main bulk head insertions, plus the sheerclamp ones
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    port aft babystay chainplate inside reinforcement
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    peeling the gelcoat
    WhatsApp Image 2021-10-31 at 22.55.05.jpeg

    first try with the peeler
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    regelcoated twice from new
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    peeling the stb hull
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    took me 3 days to fully peel the hull, including all the spots i couldnt reach with the peeler. fantastic tool, expensive, but it delivers, can only recommend.
    but beware: its shoulder and back day at the gym. its heavy and you are working against Newton.
     
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  7. voodoochile
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    keel bolts replacement
    the bolts were corroded from the inside, they had to come out.
    i simply used a sawzall to cut them flush at the hull-keel joint. took me 90 min.
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    keel before

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    keel after
    job done with a 60 grit flap disk on a grinder (well, several of them!)
     
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    improving the bilge area
    with the bolts now removed i had unrestricted acess
    so the idea was to reinforce with glass, do a self levelling epoxy pour and top it up with a 6mm long G10 piece.
    WhatsApp Image 2021-12-14 at 20.42.09.jpeg

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    water tank epoxy paint.jpeg
    holes bored from the outside and painted with an epoxy tank lining, cures very hard

    keel bolts trimmed to size.jpeg
    new bolts in and trimmed to size

    almost done 4200.jpeg

    applying 4200.jpeg
    thats what 5 tubes of 4200 look like

    taking care of the squeeze out.jpeg
    back on. i was inside the boat tightening the nuts and had a couple of friends dealing with the squeeze out. left some it as fairing as there is discontinuities between the hull and keel, due to metal shrinkage upon casting (i wasnt too fussy about this, im not going to compete after all, what matter is that the keel stays there)

    before i got the keel back, i gave a coat of primocon and then i laminated biaxial cloth over it, 2 layers. after some research i ended concluding that was simple the best course of action, any products are nothing but diluted epoxy paints, better the real stuff.
    in another forum i post (with more detailed info) one perso suggested i encapsulate the keel. at the time i thought that would have been pretty intensive, but in hindsight i should have done that, maybe next time if i feel like it, i get some serious unidirectional glass and just do it.

    aniway i did glass over the joint with a very generous 2 feet ish (no, not those "feetish".....) wide, single wrap around piece of cloth of biaxial.
    kell hull lamination.jpeg

    bolts from the inside
    aft keel bolts.jpeg fwd keel bolts.jpeg
    as washers i used a 6 mm G10 and a 8mm thick powdercoated steel one. feels solid and at least gives you a few mm before the metal is submerged in water
    you can also see the partition i glassed in separating the only part of the bilge which will be wet
     
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  9. voodoochile
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    bilge tank skin
    before i installed the keel i took the time to mould a tank skin fitting from the bilge shape
    got some shitty duct tape, and laminated over it. came out easy
    this skin will be converted into smaller tanks for water and diesel.
    laying the biax.jpeg epoxy biax.jpeg
    tank skin removal.jpeg tank skin holes.jpeg tank skin fitted.jpeg
     
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    painting the hull
    after peeling i gave it a first fairing pass with 407
    WhatsApp Image 2022-01-14 at 23.44.28 (1).jpeg WhatsApp Image 2022-01-14 at 23.44.28.jpeg
    sanded that and primed after it
    all products are Alexseal onwards
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    more fairing
    just overfaired the whole hull then knocked it down to desired level, why waste time.
    WhatsApp Image 2022-02-02 at 22.14.58 (6).jpeg

    sanded
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    final show coat. alexseal with rolling additive
    WhatsApp Image 2022-03-06 at 20.46.17.jpeg painting 2.jpeg painting is done.jpeg
    everyone thought it was a spray job. nah.
    was really happy with the result but had a few good runs on it. never painted a hull in my life before. a more experience person will avoid having to polish the hull in the end.
    i had to wet sand to 1500 grit then polish. i lost glare but i gained definition. i am happy with the paint but not the final end result after polishing. this photo is before all that

    this one shows 3 stages: polished, 1500 grit and bottom barrier coat
    1500 grit cutting compound waterline.jpeg

    and this one shows AF and final polish
    you can see i went thru the paint in some spots....have to live with that for a few years untill i forget about all the sanding and redo the paint job waterline AF 2.jpeg
     
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  11. voodoochile
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    bilge tanks
    beginning of the job.jpeg bolt pockets tank interior.jpeg dry fit.jpeg
    cut.jpeg
    cut line.jpeg handle baffle.jpeg tanks.jpeg
     
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    back on the water
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    prepped for rainy season
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    building the fridge/freezer box

    i designed in on cad, and loft it to 7 cubic feet of volume as per CoolBlue recommendations
    ice box 3D.jpg

    got it into individual pieces, print it 1:1 on a plotter, and transfer it to the G10 sheets
    taping the fridge pieces together 2.jpeg

    duct tape was enough to confer some integrity do decided to laminate the inside
    glassing the interior seams.jpeg

    then went strip planking on the molded side
    carvel planking.jpeg

    stealer plank as they call it
    steeler plank.jpeg

    whiskey plank as they call it hehehe
    no whiskey was around at the time though
    last plank.jpeg

    laminations
    outside lamination.jpeg

    glassing the round wall.jpeg

    in its future place
    fridge box in place.jpeg
     
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    cabinetry and storage solutions
    i had finally made a final decision about the port and stb cabinets units
    BERTHS CABINET.jpg

    building the foundations for it
    port and stb bunk storage partitions.jpeg
    portside  bunk storage.jpeg
    portside bunk storage 2.jpeg
    stb bunk.jpeg
    stb berth storage access.jpeg
    stb berth cabinets fough fit.jpeg


    after tge complete demolition of the boat inside i kept only this big piece knowing it would serve as a template for the new to be integral water tank wall/separation between engine room, water tank and future stb cockpit lockers
    cutting water tank partition (1).jpeg

    initial dry fit
    water tank partition 2 (1).jpeg

    by then i knew i had a conflict between the wall and the massive marelon ball valves. i had to go around them so that, in the future i had the best access possible for maintenance or replacement
    i got a 6 inch diameter PVC pipe, wrapped 6 turns of cloth and wet it out with epoxy
    6 inch pvc pipe lamination.jpeg

    cut it in half and demoulded (which is pretty easy if you use packing tape)
    demoulding 6 inch pipe.jpeg

    did a couple more measurements
    found the appropriate spot and epoxied and glassed it to the wall
    glassin the inside.jpeg
    glassing the exterior.jpeg

    2nd dry fit
    dry fit 3.jpeg

    and there should be enough space now
    dry fit.jpeg
     
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  15. voodoochile
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    anchor locker
    6 mm G10 sheet
    anchor locker collision bulkhead.jpeg

    had to cut a bit out to go thru V berth opening
    nobody is perfect.jpeg

    cutting the access hatch into it
    hatch cutout.jpeg

    laminating it
    anchor locker lamination.jpeg

    closing the bulkhead
    laminating the  bulkhead.jpeg

    bulkhead hatch
    such a good fit.jpeg

    some extra storage
    i built that box by laminating over a plastic box and demoulding it after.
    then cut it to shape and epoxied it to the hull
    inspection port.jpeg
     
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