It's been awhile so let's get back up to speed: She:Kon Bateau TW28 modified

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  1. KnottyBuoyz
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    Ready for goop tomorrow!

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    That lil' piece is about 30' long and 4' wide. I'm guestimating 1-3/4 gallons of epoxy & 3-1/2 hours.

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  2. KnottyBuoyz
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    Gooped!

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    Web log updated: http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2015/09/another-nibble.html

    I'll hang the glass for the stbd side tomorrow and likely goop it on Wednesday. Once that's done it's switcheroo day moving all the stuff back to the stbd side so I can glass the port side.

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  3. KnottyBuoyz
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    Hotter 'n hell here today. We had tornado warnings last night but most of the nasty stuff skirted by us to the north & south. Dodged a bullet methinks. I got out in the shed this morning with intentions of laying out the fabric for the stbd side fore to aft and glue it tomorrow. That didn't happen. I got the fabric hung up and it started 'screaming' at me to goop it! :) So I obliged.

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    Just a bit over an hours labour and a gallon of epoxy. Done. A wee problem with the edge sticking up in places from yesterday but the ball peen hammer (thumb adjuster) fixed that up. Just have to check that the bubbles have stuck down. It's almost 100 F in the shed right now, not a wisp of a breeze either. Fans going full blast make it somewhat tolerable.

    Couple more pics on the web log update: http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2015/09/star ... lwark.html

    Cheers!
     
  4. KnottyBuoyz
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    Too hot to work on the boat this afternoon so I stayed in the basement and tinkered. Tried to wrangle some tiny wires for the Mimic panel I designed.

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    Web log updated for a second time today! Bonus! :) http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2015/09/bonu ... iring.html

    Time for dinner. Popsicle's and ice cream! :p
     
  5. KnottyBuoyz
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    Hit the shed early and got the stbd side ready for more glass. A lil' sanding on the tape edges and then laid out the glass & gooped it down. About 3 hrs total and 1-1/2 gallons of epoxy. Nice 'n neat, quick 'n dirty. Got out of the shed before the heat started to build.

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    Couple more pics on the blog updated: http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2015/09/star ... layer.html

    Tomorrow I'll do a lil' sanding on the stbd bow then lay out the 10 oz finishing cloth. That should go pretty quick too!

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  6. hoytedow
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    It looks great and strong. :cool:
     
  7. gregkuiper
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    I have used Bondo Body Filler as a fairing compound on two small boats and a trailer with great success. The only down side is that I think you will have to use an epoxy based fairing compound since your base is epoxy. I went with poly resin.

    Revchem in Costa Mesa has a similar white fairing compound that is pretty much the same as Bondo.
     
  8. KnottyBuoyz
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    Took advantage of much cooler weather today and spent a total of 7 hours sanding the inside of the boat in prep for the next layers of glass.

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    Sanded from stem to stern and keel bottom to bulwarks. Almost got it all done, just about a half hour left then I'll lay out the glass in the keel tomorrow and get that glued in. I don't have enough epoxy to finish the inside of the boat this year but if I skip the finishing layer for now I'll be able to get the stringers in before I have to call it quits for the year.

    More pics and more of me whining on today's web blog updated: http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2015/09/long ... -shed.html

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  9. KnottyBuoyz
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    Doesn't flop around like it used to Hoyt. :D
     
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    I used System 3 Quickfair on the outside Greg. Only used a very little on the inside. It won't need to be faired. I was warned off Bondo for my project. Apparently it likes to absorb water and swell. I have a big lump on the rear quarter of my IROC that does that. I sand it down every year and it keeps plumping back up! One of these years I'll grind it all out of there. Don't think it's an issue for a small trailer boat though.
     
  11. groper
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    Why do you insist on torturing yourself knotty? Why don't you use peel ply over the glass and save yourself all those hours of sanding it afterwards???

    Call up a textiles wholesaler, tell them you need some 80gsm polyester Taffeta or garment inside liner. It costs about $1 per square meter if you buy a 50m roll.

    You end up with a perfect finish on your glass work, no pinholes, and just tear it off and keep on glassing next time. No sanding and vacuuming up dust...
     
  12. KnottyBuoyz
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    I have peel ply. I find it slows me down A LOT trying to do it all myself. I'd just end up burning myself out half way through a job. I had to split the bottom panels into two sections with a healthy overlap and do it over two days. W/o the peel ply I can do an entire bottom panel (30' long) in a few hours.

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    The last batch I got was the really cheap stuff. It's cheap for a reason.

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    The extra time it took to peel it all off just wasn't worth it so I quit using it on the inside where nobody will see it. I'll likely use it again on any cosmetic parts on the outside of the cabin etc.

    I don't itch anymore. I'm impervious to it now I think! ;) I've never been accused of being normal. :p
     
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    Why does it slow you down? Only takes me a minute or 2 to lay down strips as long as in your previous pic? Then roll and bust all your bubbles after the peel ply is down...

    What I do is , wet out the glass so there is no visible dry spots anymore, but there may be bubbles still present etc... Roll out the peel ply over that, then work it all down with a roller and squeegee etc until it's fully neat.
    then move onto the next section and repeat etc...
     
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    I just find the sanding the lesser of two evils I guess. I'm not the most nimble person so trying to support myself stretched out over 4' of epoxy soaked fiberglass without falling into it takes a lot of effort. More often than not I end up rollin' around in the sh*t! ;)

    I'm almost done inside the hull glassing then it will all be forgotten!
     

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    I hate to tell you this but peelply is the ONLY WAY to this kind of work.

    It is very simple,
    you are spending hours sanding

    BUT BUT BUT
    how are you washing off the blush that you have spread all over with the grinder ???
    sure you can wipe it with acetone = NOT GOOD ENOUGH

    next thing is best - wash it with luke warm soapy water
    rinse with clean water
    wipe with clean water and 50% white vinegar mix
    wait a day or two to dry properly and then proceed with the next layers

    DONT BELIEVE ME ????

    try this - stick a putty knife in between your layers and see how easy you will separate them - you're going to have a heart attack !!!!

    sure there are different epoxies and they will give different results but until you have "split" your layers you wont know.

    I wish you the best of luck and I sincerely hope that everything works out well for you - but geez my friend you got me worried here.
     
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