Is this blasphemy?

Discussion in 'Wooden Boat Building and Restoration' started by Winingar, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. tuantom
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    tuantom Senior Member

    weight

    I like the look of the steps. Form and function have to find a happy medium. It seems to me though, in the end, the steps would actually add more material to the back than they'd remove. However, that said, I think weight difference would be negligable.
     
  2. Willallison
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    I don't think that PAR is referring so much to the steps as the combination of steps and large boarding platform (in terms of weight I mean). However, in combination with moving something else fwd - like the battery for instance - the positoon of th CG could probably be maintained.

    Personally I rather like the steps - not your drawing (sorry), but the pic...
     
  3. charmc
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    The photo concept totally changes my answer from your earlier sketch (I understand that much, I can't sketch on a computer worth a damn, either :mad: ).

    The barrelback stern is a natural base for a wood ladder (think steps: naval parlance calls all stairs on a boat/ship ladders) following the contours of the stern, similar to the photo. Hand rails or cutouts for hand grips will be welcomed by tired swimmers or skiers.

    Any chance of some photos of your boat as it is now?
     
  4. glwanabe
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    PAR,
    has always been very helpful to me in the past, and I respect his amount of knowledge.

    I would not cut up a real classic boat boat, but with proper research I've seen designs like those steps that look pretty darn good.


    http://www.comittigroup.com/italiano/Venezia34.html

    I've really come to like the integration of classic styles with modern touches.

    check out the T-29 and T-38

    http://www.hinckleyyachts.com/
     
  5. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the idea of a scoop stern with steps, just not on a bastardized barrelback. A new design, incorporating the "classic" looks of the 20's era runabouts with some modern upgrades, maybe including a scoop and steps sounds like a good idea for a custom foray into yacht design. I'd even entertain such a project.
     
  6. glwanabe
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    Hi Paul,

    I hope you don't think I was calling you out for your opinion, that is not the case. You have very good advice and a background far beyond most people who ask questions on these open forums.

    I agree with your viewpoint. I think such design ideas look better when applied as part of the original design, yet one that stills call to mind a familier image. Yes I think it can work, just maybe not with that hull. Evan if the balance isssues are proved to worked out.

    I forgot to post any pics of ssome of the newer Chris Crafts. They have some beautiful work. they give Riva and Comitti a serious run for the money.
     

  7. PAR
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    Thanks Jeff, no worries my friend, I'm not a stick in the mud and have several well out of the box designs of mine own. Some of these include classic runabouts with modern touches and propulsion.
     
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