Is the ocean broken?

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  1. hoytedow
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    My house sits on an old coral reef. The canal next to it was blasted into the reef with dynamite. The products of those explosions were used to build the causeway for US 19 between Pinellas and Manatee Counties.
     
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    Red Giant Stars: Facts, Definition & the Future of the Sun

    In approximately 5 billion years, the sun will begin the helium-burning process, turning into a red giant star. When it expands, its outer layers will consume Mercury and Venus, and reach Earth. Scientists are still debating whether or not our planet will be engulfed, or whether it will orbit dangerously close to the dimmer star. Either way, life as we know it on Earth will cease to exist.
     
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    Increasing Arctic freshwater is driven by climate change
    • Since the 1990s, the Arctic Ocean has seen a 10% increase in its freshwater
    • Within the next few decades, this will lead to increased freshwater moving into the North Atlantic Ocean
    • This could disrupt the ocean currents in the North Atlantic that moderate winter temperatures in Europe
    The paper was published in Geophysical Research Letters
     
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    Earth’s orbit cannot explain modern climate change https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/earths-orbit-cannot-explain-modern-climate-change/
    "CLAIM
    changes in the solar orbit of the earth, along with alterations to the earth’s axial tilt, are both responsible for what climate scientists today have dubbed as “warming”[...]. In no way, shape, or form are humans warming or cooling the planet
    VERDICT
    [​IMG]

    DETAILS
    Flawed Reasoning : Earth's orbital cycles are 20,000 years long—or longer. They cannot explain global warming occurring over a single century.
    Factually Inaccurate : Measurements show that incoming solar radiation has not increased over the last century to drive rising temperatures. Instead, greenhouse gas emissions are responsible."
    While that last sentence is just a conjecture, the reasoning in this article seems pretty sound.

    Earth’s orbit cannot explain modern climate change https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/earths-orbit-cannot-explain-modern-climate-change/
    "The problem lies partly with the moving pole and partly with other shifts deep within the planet. Liquid churning in Earth’s core generates most of the magnetic field, which varies over time as the deep flows change."
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    "the fast motion of the north magnetic pole could be linked to a high-speed jet of liquid iron beneath Canada."

    How interesting that molten "jets" of iron are speeding around under the very ice sheets that are melting. Any connection?

    -Will (Dragonfly)
     
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    Arctic Report Card: Update for 2020| NOAA

    Highlights
    • The average annual land surface air temperature north of 60° N for October 2019-September 2020 was the second highest on record since at least 1900. Record warm temperatures in the Eurasian Arctic were associated with extreme conditions in the ocean and on the land.

    In the oceans

    • Sea ice loss in spring 2020 was particularly early in the East Siberian Sea and Laptev Sea regions, setting new record lows in the Laptev Sea for June. The end of summer sea ice extent in 2020 was the second lowest in the 42-year satellite record, with 2012 being the record minimum year.
    • August mean sea surface temperatures in 2020 were ~1-3°C warmer than the 1982-2010 August mean over most of the Arctic Ocean, with exceptionally warm temperatures in the Laptev and Kara seas that coincided with the early loss of sea ice in this region.
    • During July and August 2020, regional ocean primary productivity in the Laptev Sea was ~2 times higher for July and ~6 times higher for August compared to their respective monthly averages.
    • Bowhead whales have been a staple resource for coastal Indigenous peoples for millennia and are uniquely adapted for the arctic marine ecosystem. The Pacific Arctic population size has increased in the past 30 years likely due to increases in ocean primary production and northward transport of the zooplankton they feed on.
    • Shifts in air temperatures, storminess, sea ice and ocean conditions have combined to increase coastal permafrost erosion rates, in regions where a high proportion of Arctic residents live and industrial, commercial, tourist and military activities are expanding.

    On the land

    • The exceptional warm spring air temperatures across Siberia resulted in record low June snow cover extent across the Eurasian Arctic, as observed in the past 54 years.
    • Extreme wildfires in 2020 in the Sakha Republic of northern Russia coincided with unparalleled warm air temperatures and record snow loss in the region.
    • Since 2016, tundra greenness trends have diverged strongly by continent, declining sharply in North America but remaining above the long-term average in Eurasia.
    • From September 2019 to August 2020, the Greenland Ice Sheet experienced higher ice loss than the 1981-2010 average but substantially lower than the record 2018/19 loss.
    • Glaciers and ice sheets outside of Greenland have continued a trend of significant ice loss, dominated largely by ice loss from Alaska and Arctic Canada.
     
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    Giant iceberg threatens British island in the S. Atlantic.
    Melt! Melt!
     
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    Let's lasso an iceball comet and drop it into artic ocean. As the glaciers descend over the northern hemisphere, everybody will be wishing for global warming again.
     
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    As the Arctic and Antarctic continue to warm at increasing rates, I won't be surprised if more icebergs than "normal" are produced from the Greenland and Antarctica ice fields.
     
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    Shift to a Not-So-Frozen North Is Well Underway, Scientists Warn
    • “There is no reason to think that in 30 years much of anything will be as it is today”
    • “describes an Arctic region that continues along a path that is warmer, less frozen and biologically changed in ways that were scarcely imaginable even a generation ago”
    • The Arctic is heating up more than twice as quickly as other regions
    • The Greenland ice sheet and glaciers in Alaska and elsewhere lost mass at above-average rates
    • Although the amount of snow that fell across the Eurasian Arctic was above normal this year, snow cover was at record low in June
    • Drying soils and vegetation contributed to wildfires that burned millions of acres of taiga, or boreal forest, particularly across Siberia
    • Arctic sea ice extent has declined so much that even an extremely cold year will not result in as much ice as was typical decades ago
    • Average land temperature north of 60 degrees latitude was 3.4 degrees Fahrenheit above the baseline average for 1981-2010
     
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    “Once in a Lifetime” Floods to Become Regular Occurrences by End of Century
    • 100-year and 500-year flood levels could become regular occurrences for the Jamaica Bay region (Brooklyn/Queens) of New York by the end of the century
    • Historical 100-year flood level would become a nine-year flood level by mid-century, and a one-year flood level by late 21st century
    • The framework used for this study can be replicated to demonstrate how flooding in other regions will look by the end of the century
    The study was published in Climatic Change.
     
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    We are living longer. Who's lifetime?
     

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    "Flood return periods are estimated based on probabilistic projections of SLR and peak storm tides simulated by a hydrodynamic model for large numbers of synthetic TCs. We find a substantial increase in the future flood hazards, e.g., the historical 100-year flood level would become a 9- and 1-year flood level in the mid- and late-twenty-first century and the 500-year flood level would become a 143- and 4-year flood level."

    This is not a study. This is simply a projection based upon an idea. I'm not suggesting it's wrong, just that there is no study other than a statistical analysis of existing data and an overlay of a concept still in dispute. There is no testing or experimentation or search for unknowns to be uncovered. In that, it is hype.

    -Will (Dragonfly)
     
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