Is the ocean broken?

Weather is weather.
Florida has a different climate than Washington State which differs from Washington, D.C. which differs from North Dakota which differs from Hawaii which differs from Puerto Rico which differs from Iceland which differs from Greenland which differs from Cuzco which differs from Halifax, Canada which differs from Halifax, West Yorkshire which differs from Buenos Aires which differs from Tierra del Fuego which differs from the Galápagos which differs from the Aleutians which differs from Micronesia which differs from Hobart which differs from Perth which differs from a town called Alice which differs from the New Hebrides which differs from the Hebrides which differs from Delhi which differs from Taipei which differs from Casablanca which differs from Catalina which differs from Catalán which differs from Lagos which differs from Sebastopol which differs from Sapporo which differs from Manila which differs from Habana, Cuba which differs froma Havana, Florida which differs from Miami, Florida which differs from Miami, Ohio which differs from Hell, Pennsylvania which differs from Valparaiso, Chile which differs from Valparaiso, Indiana.
They all get weather. Sometimes rain. Sometimes hot weather. Sometimes not.
Weather is weather. Localized, not global.

 

You should stick to bananas. They're more your speed.

 

Bananas aren't sticky. They are slippery like propagandists.

 

there is no statistical evidence hurricanes are becoming worse or more frequent. Figure 1: Atlantic tropical storms lasting more than 2 days have not increased in number. Storms lasting less than two days have increased sharply, but this is likely due to better observations. Figure adapted from Landsea, Vecchi, Bengtsson and Knutson (2009, J. Climate)

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/wp-conten...gav/historical_storms/simplified_tser3_lg.png

 

Yob, your charts show duration, not intensity. And they show only short-duration and moderate-duration storms, not long-duration storms. Furthermore, your charts don't include data for the last 10 years.

How climate change is making hurricanes more dangerous
...The conventional wisdom is that storm intensity will increase but storm frequency will either decrease or remain unchanged....

The authors of that same 2013 study found a substantial regional and global increase in the proportion of the strongest hurricanes – category 4 and 5 storms. The authors attribute that increase to global heating of the climate: “We conclude that since 1975 there has been a substantial and observable regional and global increase in the proportion of Cat 4-5 hurricanes of 25-30 percent per °C of anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming.”

Interestingly, the increase in those most powerful of storms is balanced by a similar decrease in category 1 and category 2 hurricanes. The authors put forth this intriguing theory: “We suggest that this [balance] arises from the capped nature of tropical cyclones to a maximum value defined by the potential intensity, which increases only slightly with global warming.”....

...the authors of a 2019 paper led by scientists at NOAA’s Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory suggest that global warming also plays a role. Using simulations from one of the most advanced climate models available, called HiFLOR, the team of researchers concludes that recent increases in rapid intensification “is outside HiFLOR’s estimate of expected internal climate variability which suggests the model’s depiction of climate oscillations like the AMO cannot explain the observed trend.”....

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Global Warming and Hurricanes | NOAA
....Tropical cyclone rainfall rates will likely increase in the future due to anthropogenic warming and accompanying increase in atmospheric moisture content....

...Tropical cyclone intensities globally will likely increase on average (by 1 to 10% according to model projections for a 2 degree Celsius global warming)....

...The global proportion of tropical cyclones that reach very intense (Category 4 and 5) levels will likely increase due to anthropogenic warming over the 21st century....

 

There's the rub.

Warmer water causes bigger hurricanes, but that is not evidence of anthropogenic anything. If it is a given that the globe is getting warmer, there is still the cause to prove.

However, what we really need to prove is that we can reverse it and all the alarmists seem to be suggesting that it can't be done because it's too late. Something that also has yet to be proven.

Let's pour more money into research so we can at least get better at predicting the weather.

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

Exactly. The AGW crowd has always confused global warming as Anthropogenic Global Warming, and offers global warming as a proof and supportive evidence their hypothesis is correct. Very unscientific, to suggest the phenomenon is itself proof of the hyped politicized imagined cause of the phenomenon.
Doesn't matter how wise you claim to be or how many Phds you have. If you make these sorts of claims, you're either delusional or an outright fraud. One more possibility, a religious nut following a mass hysteria secular religion. Doesn't that fall under delusional?

 

Figure 3: Normalized Atlantic Indices. Since the late-19th Century global (green) and tropical Atlantic (blue) temperatures have risen – an increase that was partly driven by increased greenhouse gases. If one does not account for possible missed storms (first red line) Atlantic tropical storms appear to have increased with temperature; however, once one accounts for possible missed storms (second and third red lines) basinwide storms have not exhibited a significant increase. When one focuses only on landfalling storms (yellow lines) the nominal trend has been for a decrease. Figure adapted from Vecchi and Knutson (2008, J. Climate)

 

May 4, 2020 – Although global mean temperature has been rising since the mid-twentieth century and can be attributed to increases in emissions of greenhouse gasses, the annual number of global tropical cyclones (TCs) has remained steady at around 86 since 1980. The limited length of observed TC data and the effect of multi-decadal variability have made it challenging to detect trends in TC activity on a global scale. There is a distinct spatial pattern to the trends in TC frequency of occurrence at a global scale since 1980. Significant decreases in the frequency of occurrence in the South Indian Ocean, as well as the western North Pacific, can be seen.

Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/

 

Yob, you are still conflating frequency with intensity. The data does indeed show that frequency is not changing a whole lot. However, intensity is increasing.

 

I think that the alarmists position is more nuanced than you suggest.

 

show us a statistics chart of increased intensity storms since 1880.
Not going to take yours or anyone elses unfounded biased claims as factual.

 

Intensity inschmensity. Warming is not in dispute.
Mankind is not at fault. The Sun is causing the warming but with scales over your eyes you can't see that.

 

Italy's coldest September in 50 years https://www.wantedinmilan.com/news/italys-coldest-september-in-50-years.html

 

It's just the lasted I read here was that it was too late, that we have past the typing point.

I don't know about the bias or facts around these claims, but where I grew up, in Clearwater, off the north end of Clearwater Beach is Caladesi Island.

From the Florida State Parks website: History https://www.floridastateparks.org/parks-and-trails/honeymoon-island-state-park/history
"Prior to the Hurricane of 1921, Honeymoon Island and nearby Caladesi Island were one large island known as Hog Island. The hurricane split the island in half and created Hurricane Pass."

That had to have been a tremendous hurricane. Imagine if there had been a military installation on Hog Island at the time.

-Will (Dragonfly)