Is the ocean broken?

Most teachers are ignorant about the science of climatology and therefore should not teach it.

 

All of us are ignorant about everything until we go to the trouble of learning about it, which is what teachers make a point of doing.

On this and other threads there are a number of folks, who could be known as ultracrepidarians, that make a point of not learning, yet act as if they know everything.

Perhaps some will find this miniseries edifying

Rainn Wilson to host “An Idiot’s Guide to Climate Change” docuseries

The amazing, fun, and terrifying journey seen in An Idiots Guide to Climate Change really opened my eyes,” said Wilson in a statement. “It was my idiotic way of exploring this extremely non-idiotic issue.”​

 

Baleen whales may be changing their travels because of warming climate

The Gulf of Maine is warming faster than 99 percent of other oceans, and that has changed feed availability and animal behavior. Instead of lingering there, the researchers found that fin, sei, humpback and blue whales all spend more time in northern latitudes. Since 2010, the time they spend off the coasts of New England and Nova Scotia, has declined.

The paper was published in the journal Global Change Biology.

 

Well, there's a word unfamiliar to me ! Perish the thought that their number be large.

 

On the Oxford dictionaries they don't know the word ultracrepidarian in UK English, however they do know ultracrepidarian in US English, there's even difference in English on the US east and west coast*, not to mention differences in English when separated by oceans for centuries.

* as example a Dutch study published in Dutch about the language usage and pronunciation changes of Tupac Shakur after moving from the US east coast to the US west coast, while adapting to the environment there.

 

I find it ironic that you, of all people, would apply that label to others, without any actual evidence relating to their knowledge, or lack of it. Whilst climatology is not my career, I at least did study it and manage to successfully complete the course of study in spite of the professor being on the other team regarding this bs topic. You are perhaps projecting onto me a bit of your own quality?

 

Quite overbearing, what are your and poster Sam's personal credentials, or are you just some ultracrepidarians yourself ?

 

I have no personal credentials, and seldom explicitly give my own opinion. I much prefer presenting the conclusions of subject-matter experts.

 

So you once took a three-credit course and are now a past-master? I rest my case!

 

You better make a point of learning yourself, so you can at least make a own judgement before copy pasting info to this and other threads.

 

INTERNATIONAL LAW GOVERNING DRIFTNET FISHING ON THE HIGH SEAS http://earthtrust.org/archive/dnpaper/intllaw.html
"The 1982 United Nations Law of the Sea Convention (UNCLOS), with the exception of Part 11, is generally considered to be a codification of customary international law. It will go into force with respect to the ratifying States, on November 1994. UNCLOS requires nation States to take conservation measures to protect the living resources of the high seas, (articles 116, 117, 118, 119, 120),"

It seems there is a law.

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

Awesome!
Yes!

On teaching Climate Change, elementary and secondary education is and should be concerned more with the basic tool kit of Reading, Writing, Maths and Science. They teach Social Studies and about the structure of political systems. Teaching a particular philosophy, political point, even a social concern, is usually left to the parents and micro-community.

For subjects that are polarizing, I think an open society doesn't really want an institution to be responsible for the indoctrination of its youth into a particular point of view. Schools, publicly supported schools, should give students the tools to use, so that they may come to their own, reasoned, opinion.

That said, there are certain universal values that schools are in the perfect position to help develop. Conservation, respect, economy, even spirituality (in a general sense), health, community, and social conscience are among those values I would consider important for a nation, as a whole, to be concerned about enculturating in each upcoming generation.

Leave the specifics to advanced education, where young adults are equipped to make their own choice of focus.

Since this is just an opinion, as an appeal to authority, on the above statement, I am two math classes away from completing my master's in education-mathematics.

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

That 3 credit course plus over 60 years of direct observation from several climatic zones should count for something. I never claimed to be a master over climate. Not for nothing.
A lot of learning does not appear on any college transcript.
Are you a past-master of not touching a hot stove?
Yes, you should rest your case because it is a rather tired and sad case.

 

Climate change is not a philosophy, or a political point, or a point of view, it's a science. A logical place to teach it would be in an Earth Sciences class, a fixture of elementary and secondary schools. I can't think of a better tool than knowledge that you could give to students so as to come to their own reasoned conclusions. How else? How can you teach them a social conscience if you don't bother informing them of any social concerns?


In that NPR GPB poll, more than 80% of parents and 86% of teachers in the U.S. support the teaching of climate change, that sounds like it should be taught.

 

Climate change is and always has been a reality, a fact of life.
Trying to blame it on humans, anthropos, is political and an effort to quash capitalist economic success by scaremongering the ignorant masses in order to usher in a socialist governmental system which will ultimately fail.