is a center console or closed bow more seaworthy

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  1. Relaxin
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    Caught out in ruff weather you don't want to be out in, would you rather be in a Donzi 28 zx closed bow or a Donzi 29zf center console?
     
  2. Landlubber
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    Is the sole above the waterline?....If so it does not really matter, you get wet anyhow.
     
  3. michael pierzga
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    Dont know. There is a new 32ft Donzi center console at the shipyard.

    Looks good, looks self bailing and it looks incredibly overpowered. 700hp. Hit a wave with that baby and You could easily loose your teeth, break an arm or kill yourself .

    Ive often wondered why they require drivers of cars to be seat belted and air bagged ito avoid injury, but when that driver unbuckles and jumps into his high speed skiff , he can stand up, hold on , shout YeeHaww !!! with a can of beer in one hand and blast away at 50knots.

    Strange world
     
  4. PAR
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    It's only a "strange world" to those without or with limited personal freedoms.
     
  5. whitepointer23

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    I would not want it any other way.
     
  6. 805gregg
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    Enclosed bow will not take on water, center console may fill to the gunnel, that's why cc's have floatation, but the best floatation is empty air space, like a cabin.
     
  7. Relaxin
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    Yes it's above the waterline
     
  8. Relaxin
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    Ya, the scuppers will handle some water no problem but would a bad break swamp the center console enough in an instant that the scuppers are underwater before they drain? Does that ever happen or is it worrying about nothing?
     
  9. PAR
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    If you're in conditions where a boarding wave is tall enough to swamp the boat, you got bigger troubles then wondering if a CC design was a good choice. Safety is more about the common sense of the skipper than design selection. Of course some designs are better than others, but you can no brain yourself into a hole in either type of boat. I personally always like some foredeck, if only to have a place to handle lines and have some dry stowage under it.
     
  10. michael pierzga
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    Its irrational thinking. Seamanship will slow the boat down before you sink. Open to the sea transom draining is always safer.


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  11. DCockey
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    If the cockpit sole is is sufficiently above the loaded waterline, downflooding is not possible if the cockpit floods, etc.
     
  12. michael pierzga
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    Gee...handling a small boat with two tons of water shifting fore and aft because its scuppers are small or a sardine has lodged its head in the scupper, is not so good.

    Takes a huge sardine to plug an open transom
     
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    Neither is handling a small boat with two tons of water shifting fore and aft because water flooded into the bilge, cuddy, etc and is too low to drain out. An open transom can be great as long as the water in the cockpit will drain out and not lower into the boat.
     
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    Of course !!
     

  15. SamSam
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    With the photo above, I'm wondering when the guy is going to notice the wife, the kids, and the dog all slipped out the back when he tore off from the dock. Probably when he reaches for a beer and realizes the cooler went too.

    What are the logistics of going in reverse with a boat like that?
    With a sudden stop, wouldn't a wave just wash in and then wash back out with all your stuff?
     
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