Interesting design perspective

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  1. rangebowdrie
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    Love me a Hatteras.
    Would also imagine that some of the Bertram's would do well.
    I don't know how far they may have drifted from the original Ray Hunt designs, but he was the father of the deep-V design purposed for offshore conditions.
     
  2. gonzo
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    Vikings and Hatteras are not displacement hulls but planing.
     
  3. Howlandwoodworks
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    I was referring to there weight not shape. But I can see how it sounds like hull shape.
    I changed the description of the S sheer line to the S curve coming up from the hull to the sheer line. I still don’t think I describe that correctly.
     
  4. Mr Efficiency
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    True, and I think it was simply a case of boat length more than anything else.
     
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    The very elongated "S" ! Size and bulk can iron out short wavelengths that are a nightmare for smaller boats.
     
  6. gonzo
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    Are you talking about the flare at the bow?
     
  7. Howlandwoodworks
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    Yes the flare of the bow. That sounds rather mundane compared to the spectacle that it creates as it coming over the bar.
    My head has been in the clouds and entangled in some running rigging as of late. Studying Starling Burgess Fishing Schooner Mayflower, Puritan, Columbia, Nina, to Rose of Sharon...
    I just started drawing my first schooner.
    Even the America, Arrow, and Alarm... have to deal with what the sea would throw at them.
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    DogCavalry I aim to misbehave.

    Arethusa!
     
  9. rangebowdrie
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    Ah yes,, the Rose Of Sharon.
    I was fortunate to know Byron Chamberlain when he had the Rose.
    She was hauled out in Bob Sloan's backyard, while Bob was building the Spike Africa, and I lived close by at the time.
    Many the hour was spent poking around her and looking at her hull lines.
    A better shaped hull could hardly be imagined.
    Whilst the Alden schooners tended to be of a more burdensome form, (a trading schooner in the South Pacific comes to mind,) the Burgess designs would probably get you there a bit quicker.
    Now, Herreshoff was of a different mind, (no mystery there,) he didn't think that a proper yacht form should be modeled after designs that, (in his own words,) were designed to "Carry dead fish to market".
    And its ok,, all three of them contributed so much to yacht design.
     
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  10. DogCavalry
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    Herresoff! Some of his boats were lovely, (I built one myself, back in '92) but not one of them could compare to the heartbreaking sweetness of the Bluenose, or Arethusa. Foolish snobbery...
     
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    The coast Guard and Police handled their boats the best.
     

  12. Skeeter1994
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    As a complete novice who has no business commenting, it seems like planing is optimal?
    And if your hull is a displacement hull just make the damn thing fly and you'll be alright.
     
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