# Initial stability calculation

Discussion in 'Stability' started by Optymista, Sep 8, 2021.

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### OptymistaNew Member

Hi,

Just started a course on ship design. I'm having really hard time calculating initial stability of the homogenous barge. Attaching my calculations and sketch.

"We consider a flat bottom barge with dimensions l x b x h of 60.0m x 20.0m x 4.0m.
Max draught 3.2m, (DWT 3375t) The mass is 1200t.
The barge shall carry 2 pieces of equipment/ (modules):
Module 1: mass 1200 t with height 8 m, length 20m, width 10m
Module 2: mass 600 t with height 5 m, length 10m, width 10m

Assuming the centers of gravity for the modules are in the centers of the modules, how much can the weight of the heaviest module increase without need for ballast, requiring a GM of 0.3m? Check that the freeboard is 0.8m"

I let 'x' be the weight of module 1. (See attached calcs)
Even when I try to calculate GM, using f=0.8m, I get GM = 6,13m. What am I missing?

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### jehardimanSenior Member

Check your calculation of BM. Also the think about trim and or list and the effect on freeboard.

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### bajansailorMarine Surveyor

Welcome to the Forum Optymysta.

Here is the full size version of your calculations, for easier reference by other readers.

Following on from JEHardiman's suggestions above, here are a few more thoughts.
The questions does not say if the barge is in fresh or salt water, hence I presume it must be in fresh water (?).
Re the two modules that are added - JEH has mentioned trim and list, but the question does not state where the modules are positioned on the barge.
Are you supposed to assume that the two modules will be positioned on the deck such that the barge has level trim and is not heeling (ie no trim or list) once they are in place?

I think that you need to start from the very beginning, and initially calculate the GM of the barge in the light ship condition, and then move on from there re adding the weights (?)

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### OptymistaNew Member

Thank You for the suggestions.

Sorry, forgot to mention that all the calculations are based on barge in fresh water.

I already calculated initial GM without two modules. Initial GM1 = 31.83m and freeboard, f1 =3m.

After loading two modules, the draft is 2.5m, so new freeboard is fnew=1.5m
Check for initial stability gives values for BM, KB nad KG wich are:
BM = 13.33m
KB = 1.25m
KG = 5.3m
So that new GM, GM2 = BM+KB-KG = 9.28m

I was also asked to calculate position of second module, assuming that the heavier module (nr1) is placed with its CoG 10m from the mid of the barge (measured along the barge).
I let 'x' be the distance from mid of the barge to CoG of module(arm). Here we must ensure equilibrium around the center of floatation.
Got that x=20m. That copes well with the model, as the weight of Module 2 is half of Module 1, so the arm of module 2 has to be twice of arm for module 1.

I even plotted the GM as a fuction of CoG of the modules. (same % of height for both)

Still can't figure out what am I missing on the one where I have to calculate the max increase in weight for heaviest module, requiring sufficient GM of 0.3m, while freeboard is 0.8m. I get GM = 6.13, which is approx. 20 times higher than the value I was supposed to get. 20 is the width of the ship. Maybe my equation for calculation of BM or GM is wrong?

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### jehardimanSenior Member

Your calculation of BM is incorrect. This is the simple stuff. Do it like the professional mariner. Don't calculate GM. Calculate KM from 1200t to 3840t then work out limiting KG with trim and list.

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### OptymistaNew Member

Thank You for the advice about calculating KM, @jehardiman . I know this is simple stuff and I want to understand it better, hence I asked. As I mentioned, I only started the course and there are many terms I'm not familiar with yet.

I varied the weight of heavier module from 1200t to the total weight of both modules of 3840t (DWT) and calculated corresponding KM, KG.

Since KM = KB + BM and my calculation of BM is incorrect, I will still get a wrong answer.

BM is metacenter radius, depends on width and draft of the barge. For small inclination angles, we have:

I can also use moment of inertia to calculate BM. So that I = (lb^3)/12 = 40000 m^4
Volume of submerged part: ∇ = lbd = 60*20*((1,8+x)/1,2)) = 1200((1,8+x)/1,2)
BM = I/∇ = 40000/(1800+1000x), so basically the same result, as I've got previously.

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### jehardimanSenior Member

Your simplification of BM only works for zero trim and list. Keep to the basics and don't get "smart" unless you understand the basics first.

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### OptymistaNew Member

Assuming the centers of gravity for the modules are in the centers of the modules, how much can the weight of the heaviest module increase without need for ballast, requiring a GM of 0.3m? Check that the freeboard is 0.8m and discuss the placement of the modules (to avoid trim in this case).

Here, we consider a homogeneous barge on even keel, so there won't be any list.
Since it's a homogeneous barge, the volume of the submerged part of
the vessel is b · d when the barge is at rest horizontally, and bT when the barge is inclining. Since the submerged volume is always the same, it follows that d = T.

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### elhalawanyJunior Member

can any one help me how to calculate intact stability from Maxsurfe

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### TANSLSenior Member

Yes, surely someone can help you but, have you already created the 3D model? Have you already consulted the Maxsurf Manual? What do you not understand?

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### elhalawanyJunior Member

Thank you Mr TANSL
I want to know how create 3D model ship stability calculation. I am a beginner.
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### elhalawanyJunior Member

yes

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### elhalawanyJunior Member

I am in marine engineering

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### TANSLSenior Member

My deepest respects. Why don't you start by asking a specific question? That will be more practical than if I ask and you answer.

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