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  1. water rat
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    water rat Junior Member

    Frank
    First I am about the only one at my work place that cares about sailing, so no discussion about the Tripp 65 (or whatever it is). I really don't care A small minority of sailors would buy such a boat and that would have no effect on me.

    I wish to keep anonomous. That is the neat thing about these forums.

    Yes, I frequent SA, Boat Design and a few others.

    About me? Well I guess I can't say that I have an abundance of experiances.
    Taught myself to sail in my early teens, about 40 years ago. Even though I was brought up in a powerboat family, I became a student of all things involving sailing, navigation, boat design and engineering. Have owned 7 sailboats of various sizes. Raced most of the NW races(Tri Island, Center Sound, South Sound, 10 Swiftsures) mostly on my own boats. Cruised most of the NW waters as far as Alaska. Offshore experiance is only two solo circumnavigations of Vancouver Island(with a side trip thru the Queen Charlotte islands during one circumnavigation).

    I don't believe in a lot of the politics involving sailing. But what can I say, I have only been at this for a little while, I am trying to learn as much as I can.

    The big boats get the attention, the little boats make history!
     
  2. member 10795
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    member 10795 Sensei

    Frank -

    I see you won't answer, which is exactly what I expected. When the going gets tough, Frank runs for cover, and starts babbling even faster.

    You are neither. You are like some of the street people, back when I was in college, who would go out to the Diag, stand on top of a bench, and start babbling loudly to the people as they passed by.

    Your knowledge of yacht design is less than zero - what little you do get right is overwhelmed by the huge mass that you get wrong, so the net effect is negative. I just hope that no one ever takes your advice seriously, because it could put their life in danger.
     
  3. sorenfdk
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    sorenfdk Yacht Designer

    No, there isn't.
     
  4. Mark 42
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    Mark 42 Senior Member

    AZ,
    Are you a land sailor?

    I don't mean that derogatorily... I would take up that hobby myself
    if I weren't surrounded by water like I am.

    I have a relative who lives in Phoenix... so there is some
    chance I may be out that way for a visit. Maybe I'll throw together
    a small lansailer with widsurfer rig and old bicycle parts if I have time
    before I hit the road.
     
  5. TP 52 Defender
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    TP 52 Defender Actual Sailor

    Frank you forgot Audi in your list of sponcers - but wait I know why. They just ran the TP 52 Med Cup so I guess you just can't stand it (BMW all so sponcers the class of over 30 boats now). As to W/L you keep fooling yourself - In the Med it was distance races on day and bouys the next (cources including W/L and Trianges where avaliable). Stop your lies Frank!
     
  6. mighetto
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    So the two greatest days of a sailing anarchists life are: The day He who shall not be named (HWSNBN) came and The day He who shall not be named left. Got to love it.

    Lets recognize that boatdesign.net has a growing number of viewers where as Sailing Anarchy is having problems with growth. So good morning boat designers.

    Those of us at Lightning Rodd’s on Tuesday were treated to an F-32 build. He blew me away with progress. You all may or may not know that Ian Farrier lives in Seattle and has been taking the new materials for boat building to the masses. Its a cottage industry in home boat building here. A few “hobiests” were hoping that the Boeing strike would continue for another month or so as the carbon fiber matting, ear marked for aircraft hulls, was getting relatively inexpensive. It truly is a professional job that Rodd is doing. This is his second multi-hull build. Cutting edge stuff and stuff he would be chatting about on the SSSS bulletin board if not for that little man comment from the big boat advocate Sudie Parker. She has done the sport of sailing and the Internet so much harm. Sudie Parker is a name that should be mentioned and mentioned often. She Whoes Name Should Be Spoken represents much of what is wrong with the sport, including the problems with course design, race starts and PHRF. But then she is but a minion of others. Do remember that SWNSBS started the Future of Yacht Design thread on Sailing Anarchy for the likely purpose of supporting the big boats, specifically the failed TP52s and Jim Teeter’s inappropriate attempts to design by court case. Happily, Mac26x vessels now command almost twice the price of the vessel when it was new.

    Nonetheless this battle, the battle of the fixed fin sinkers against the ultralight multis and monos and Common Sense has raged for 50 years. So lets play a new game.

    The old game we use to play was called cow pie bingo. This is where I would step into a sacred cow pie, generate a lot of comments and then someone would light up with a but maybe Bolger, Macgregor, or HWSNBN is correct.

    This game is more daring. I say this because there have been over 1000 views of this thread since the magic words Skull and Bones were mentioned. Lets play connect the dots, also called connecTheCut or Connecticut.

    The game is like degrees of separation from Keven Bacon. Like how many degrees from Connecticut is a fast sailing ship. The answer is.

    Fast sailing ships were necessary to be the first to an area in China short of opium. The first ship to the location could command addict prices. The Skull and Bones were into the opium trade. The Skull and Bones were founded in Connecticut. It is all connected. 2 degrees.

    Here is another. How many degrees from the Boys and Girls club to Connecticut. You could say The Boys and Girls club is strongly supported by the Bush Family Cartel. G Bush is an honorary chair. He is a member of Skull and Bones which was founded in Connecticut. 2 degrees. But you can get better than that.


    The Boys and Girls Club was founded in Connecticut, the state that has laws protecting the Skull and Bones. Specifically, the corporation benefiting the Skull and Bones and built on the opium trade doesn’t have to disclose its operations in reports as other corporations reporting in the state do. That is one degree of separation.

    What is the connection between Boys and Girls Club and sailing. You have me there. We have Sea Scouts for that. But there is a connection between the West Sound and South Sound through a merger of the Boys and Girls club. With that merger has come interesting developments at SSSS like Sudie Parker.

    Its all about connecting dots. IE Connecticut. Play or don't play. I have some little man - er Runte - support to do. Since you did not speak my name thrice on SA how about trying the words Skull and Bones. We like to stay ahead of Progresive Radio on Seattle's Progresive Internet. Give it a try. I double dare you:>)

    Frank Mighetto
    HWSNBN
    Member US Sailing
    Member South Sound Sailing Society
     
  7. sailsmall
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    sailsmall Senior Member

    Raving lunatic.
     
  8. member 10795
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    member 10795 Sensei

    Still lying

    Frank -

    I see that you are still lying, and not man enough to admit that you cannot post to SA. I made it very simple for you - all you had to do is answer my questions with a single word. By quoting me you cannot claim that you did not see my post.

    Why should anyone believe anything you say when you dodge this simple issue?

    I will repeat the questions below, and I will repeat them every time you post here until you answer them. And every thread you post in here, too.




    I see that Frank still has not posted on SA, and is trying to evade the issue by his now typical incoherent rants. So, are you:

    1) Afraid to try it because then you know for certain that you are banned.

    or,

    2) Tried it, so you know you are banned, but are afraid to admit it.


    So, which are you afraid of?
     
  9. mighetto
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    Oh lighten up. Give me some credit for moving the minds of Sailing Anarchists away from those freighters (TP52s) and to Flying Tigers. The future is with the smaller more sea kindly sized vessels. The message I get when trying to post at SA is that I have the wrong password. This is the same message Robert Perry was getting prior to re-introducing himself to SA. He solved the problem by just re-registering. I stopped posting at SA as the result of a bet that I had an addiction to the site. Nothing was further from the truth. The truth is that others were addicted to my web site. If you want me back you know how to do so. I do not find your post anywhere.
     
  10. sailsmall
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    sailsmall Senior Member

    That's because you are either a complete idiot or a plain liar. ******* gave you the link to the thread where he posted and even quoted it for you.
     
  11. Shife
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    Shife Anarchist

    Frank, you are a liar and a raving lunatic. YOU WERE BANNED FROM SA.
    http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20764&hl=booted
    You know, the place you say isn't growing even though it consistently attracts new sponsors and members. As for you being the impetus for the FT10. Yeah, right. Bill Stevens must have consulted you before posting the idea on SA. Isn't that boat everything you hate? Bulb Keel, light displacement, low freeboard, needs good sized crew, yada, yada, yada. You wouldn't know how to untie the freaking dock lines on a boat like that. Stop the lies Frank, we all know you're full of ****.
     
  12. member 10795
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    member 10795 Sensei

    No. You are an idiot and have minimal knowledge of the subject. And some of what you have said could put peoples lives in danger if they would follow your "advice". How many people actually agreed with you? Or here - how many people on boatdesign.net agree with you? You have even been kicked off the Mac26 board - they don't like you. On all of these sites, you are just the village idiot.
    Are you so stupid that you do not understand that it is what happens when an account has been revoked? On second thought, you are so stupid.....
    You don't seem to understand that you and your web site are objects of ridicule.
    Liar. I even gave you the name of the thread that I posted it in. And in your previous post, you even quoted from a thread in which I said Mighetto three times.
     
  13. mighetto
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    Shife. It went over the top when Tripp Gal, Sudie Parker, brought the Sailing Race game outside of the OK Coral at SA where we slung our dung like happy apes. SA will need to adapt or it will wither. I do not want that but already many clubs and organizatons have blocked SA. Most, like SSSS, have implemented private member only boards such as http://ssssclub.com/phpBB/index.php and that will continue unless the standard of behavior is improved at SA. The advertisers will move to the private boards. I had long thought SA designed to AstroTurf the TP52s. It has gone beyond that and I take some of the credit. There will never again be 10,000 views of a thread on a single day as there was that day the Church of FOYD went down there. From the ashes has come truth. The truth is that the Flying Tiger is similar to the Black Pearl. a Mac26m in Bulb Keel and light displacement. She They also have the spoon butocks I favor. Lets do analize the FT-10 here.

    But seriously Are you a bonesman.
     
  14. mighetto
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    mighetto New Member

    great. welcome to FOYD. Common Sense III was such a great day. So was the grass roots development of the FT 10
     

  15. member 10795
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    member 10795 Sensei

    Frank, that is complete bull. The only way I think someone could ever come to a conclusion like that is if they were:

    1) Using mind altering drugs
    2) Suffered severe brain trauma
    3) Hear voices in their head

    You really are like the street people who get up on the benches and start rambling incoherently to passerbys. They think that they have some sort of mission to save the world from whatever their voices tell them. Yep. Sounds like Frank.
     
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