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I have read your stuff, and I don't know that the production of the Mac26x was stopped because of Jim Teeters. I just know that you have stated this as a fact without coming up with any evidence.

Oh Frank - where do you get it from? It's hilarious!

 

Look at this boat! Sailing with a reef in and there isn't even a whitecap on the water- Gusting to 30 knots my ***! You are looking at maybe 10 knots of wind here...

 

Didn't you see the "." between the two digits?

 

I do the best I can. This is what I know. The only boat produced by MacGregor Yachts at the time of the children's deaths was the Mac26x. The last run of a boat as successful as the Mac26x was 14 years. The X was in year 7 of production at the time of halt. The company had just placed an advertisement in a publication for new boat purchasers for year 8 and it was a new advertisement, not a rehash of an old one. I personally was told that the X would be produced with the Mac26m when I viewed hull number 5 of the M roll off the assembly line .The manufacturer, prior to the X had always produced more than one boat. The day after my visit the factory was closed to visitors. The company did not raise the price of the X to slow demand prior to carting off 4 mold sets capable of at least 800 new Mac26x boats, according to the factory representative Bill. The notion that 911 caused business insurance to rize so high that production of the X was halted is hilarious. But this was kicked about for some time. It is hilarious because of the world wide distribution of the product. 911 would have little to do with international demand. The notion that buisness insurance would be raised after a paid for number had been produced (5000) and that that insurance price raise is related to Jim Teeters and by association US Sailing's objection to the design fits. From this businiss man's perspective the halt in production was directly related to Jim Teeters involvment in the 2002 July 4th drunken boater's case. This fellow from Alaska Airlines was the first with the theory. Apparently, in the transportation business this kind of thing is common. The notion has been widely accepted on this forum. Only Roger MacGregor would have proof and he isn't talking. Makes you think that perhaps legal action against Teeters and US Sailing is contemplated. But I have no indication of that. Why is this important to you?

 

My eyesite isn't as good as it used to be.

Frank. The highest gust we clocked was 22. That picture was taken around Hunter Point (squaxin in the background). We passed you about 2 miles before you even got there. You hadn't even rounded the island yet. 3 hours sounds about right. And no, I wasn't on a boat that saw you at "J" dock. I was in the bar and had dinner and numorous drinks when we saw you motor by (once again, about 3 hours later).

 

It seems pretty clear that ol' Frankie doesn't even know what planing is, let alone know when he is on a boat that is planing.

 

Dork. Cool. As this story gets older and older, I will be coming in at midnight and the gusts will be clocked at 60 MPH. But Dyno will still be AWOL. Seriously, I could have taken anytime I wanted for the finish. There isn't a bar or diner place at Swantown any more. You must have seen me motoring from a perch at Tugboat's. In which case you have damn fine eyes. Anyway it is all about stories. Yours is as good as mine at this point. And I am not complaining. The photo was the prize that day. And Murrelet appears to be screaming in the photo. I was approaching Hope Island enjoying the rest of you set out your spinakers. Naturally I was last. I have a trouble with starts. But I had passed at least one vessel prior to reefing. The boat is capable if not her crew. If I had had a camera ready the photo to take was Strider. Identify yourself and a beer is yours tomorrow night.

 

Lets go over this once again. The MANUFACTURER DEFINES PLANING. This is a word that is made up by the manufacturer. The definition of planing that is used by Melges will be different than that used by MacGregor. On a MacGregor, however, we have advantage in that we know what the wake looks like when planing under motor power. But 12 MPH is definately planing. We can split hairs over if 7.5 MPH or 9.5 MPH is planing but not 12 MPH. Not on a boat that is 26 foot.

Well, I have to quit for the night owning to the need for a network administrator who will not be available until the morning. Will see some of you tomorrow. Frank free day tomorrow on this forum. Enjoy.

 

And the boat you passed looked like this, right?

 

kill this thread now

its pointless. please. dont feed this individual...

 

Hey. Ain't that kid planing?

 

Hey Look! He raised the centerboard and CHANGED THE DISPLACEMENT of his vessel!

Maybe if he changes the displacement enough his boat will just lift off the water and float away into the sky...

 

Is that an el toro? We pass sail boats all the time. It is this fact that indicates my sailing compency is the issue and not the boat. Then the victems may or may not pass us later. I have some photos of vessels I have passed under sail. But I chose not to share those. Their captains know who they are. My wife and I are seriously considering building a little boat similar to your photo. They have a build program at center for wooden boats. Build a Boat - Test a Marrage. Something like that. The cost went from 800 to 1100 just recently. They must have added some counseling.

 

How would you know. You are a wimp Post or prepare to be boarded. Sorry really have to go. But it is great to know there are party folks this time of evening. I do miss onefatdiva.