Huge sailboat simply built

Discussion in 'Motorsailers' started by Greenseas2, Nov 1, 2006.

  1. Tad
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    Greenseas,

    One can never tell what people might be trying to say when they post.

    If a race is scored boat-for-boat and you state that you are planning to finish this race in near record time I assume you are serious about racing. In my post above I was saying that if you are serious about racing you need a faster boat.

    When I see that Matt Layden took something over 3 days to complete the course, a very experienced sailor in a well prepared (though short) boat, I would say you would do well to finish in anything less than 4 days.

    By all means go and have fun. Tad
     
  2. Greenseas2
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    Different Classes

    Apparently you are familiar with the race. A B-cat took first place, but I'm not in to spartan living, for even one day. Regardless of the speed, being able to move around the clock rather than camping ashore during the night is a big edge toward placing high. Might even pick up the outboard at the end of the race and go around Key west back to the St. Lucie River and home......don't know yet.
     
  3. Tad
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    Racing and cruising in small open boats is a subject I care about and work to promote.

    I am somewhat familiar with the Everglades Challenge, I run a superficially similar event here in the PNW, http://www.shipyardraid.ca

    Our event is a 7 day, 11 leg, 100 mile race for traditional open boats. It's far less hardcore than the Watertribe events, being more of a relaxed cruise in company.

    I believe the current record for the Everglades Challenge is held by the Core Sound 17', at 2 days 18 hours, and the G-Cat finished second about 3 hours later.

    Tad
     
  4. Greenseas2
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    yOU ARE RIGHT

    TAD, you're right about the core sond winning. I had to go back and check the article in the Good Old Boat magazine. At any rate, I'm surprised that there aren't more of these contests available, and surprised that there isn't more visibility for the one's that do exist.
    Personally I would like to see a cruising race around the easier part of Florida. Leave Stuart and cross the state on the Okeechobee Waterway, head south at Fort Myers then down to Key West and back up Hawks Channel to Stuart on the east coast. Same rules, launch from the beach and no motors.
     
  5. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    Very interesting, that kind of open boats rowing-sailing rallies. Maybe we should do something like that here in Galicia (I think we have none).
    Cheers.
     
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    Hi would love to hear how the 24 ft pelican project is coming along.?
    I am considering something similar myself
    any project photos would be great
    Cheers Glenn
     
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    Guillermo,

    The Gamela looks to be an excellent candidate for epoxy/ply construction,
    http://www.terra.es/personal8/986307044/diana.htm What are the average dimensions please?

    That rudder is MASSIVE. Certainly not shallow draft! Can the vessel be propelled with it? :D


    Regards,

    Perry
     
  8. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    Perry,
    There have been some units built up in plywood, but not epoxied, as far as I know. But for sure the 'gamelas' are excellent candidates for ply/epoxy construction. Length is around 4-4,5 m. I have a book at the office about them and I'll try (next monday) to post some drawings with measurements from there.
    Cheers.
     
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    Guillermo,

    Thanks!

    Perry
     
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  11. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    perry,
    I've realized now I forgot about posting more info on the gamelas. My head is getting old...:(
    Let's try again.
     
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    Sorry Guillermo, nothing in attachments.

    Perry
     
  14. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    Wops!
    I don't know what's happening. Attachements are there, but they do not appear now! (yesterday they were working fine...:confused: )
     

  15. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    Let's see if works now...

    To give due credit to the author: drawings are from the spanish NA Íñigo Echenique, published in his very nice book "Madeira de Mar".

    Cheers
     

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