HTS - The Future of Navy Motors - high temperature superconductor

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  1. kach22i
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    HTS - The Future of Navy Motors - high temperature superconductor
    http://www.defensetech.org/archives/cat_ships_and_subs.html

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    How long before we see some trickle down tech into other industries?


    This illustration is something.

    Benefits of HTS over alternative ship propulsion motors
    http://www.amsuper.com/products/motorsGenerators/shipPropulsion.cfm
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    Left is an illustration of a conventional copper 36.5 MW ship propulsion motor and on the right is the HTS 36.5 MW ship propulsion motor
     
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    What are they cooling it with? Liquid nitrogen?
     
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    So by "High Temperature Superconductor" they actually mean some wire in a big fridge.

    It is interesting though.

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  5. kach22i
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    The "Wire" is what makes the motor works the way it does, so it must of came first.

    High Temperature Superconductor wire
    http://www.amsuper.com/products/htsWire/index.cfm
     
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    In the "old days" there was a delay in getting underway as the steam boilers were brought up.

    Now we have the delay to get the electric motor temperatures down!

    The more things change ,,,,

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    It takes six hours to get a steam boiler up to power. I wonder how long it takes to get the motor cool?
     
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    From a complete, long-term shutdown it takes a while to get a cryogenic system going again. If these guys know anything at all, though, the motor will be very well insulated and should tend to hold its low temperature fairly well on shutdown. I imagine it will take more testing before they know how it will respond in real-world situations, but I don't think power-up time from a cold (warm?) start should be any worse than cold-starting a typical modern ship's main diesel power plant.
     
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    Be cool once it trickles down into consumer marine products
     
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    They do use liquid nitrogen as coolant.

    They claim to be close to commercial marine applications. If the same power density ratios hold up (equal power from a motor and/or generator with only 40 - 50 % of the mass of a copper wound motor or generator), that would be pretty cool.
     

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    It's strange that they are going into wind generators, right?

    I mean the size reduction and weight loss would benifit mobile and not stationary applications foremost, right?

    Link to news press release page:
    http://www.amsuper.com/newsEvents/index.cfm
     
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