How does he do it? Dashew's new 77 foot powerboat cheaper to run than Beowulf.

[sabahcat]

Wow

Fuel burn underway comes in at 6.9 gallons/26 liters per hour of which 0.7 gallons/2.64 liters is used to generate hydraulic and electric power. Most of the trip was run at 11 knots with only a brief period of short hops in Canada spent at a more efficient 10-knot speed

So 26 litres an hour for 11 knots (2.3 l/nm)

Compared to

On a displacement boat of 40 – 50 ft your best fuel economy will most likely be a bit under hull speed, or about 6 - 8 knots.
On Lifeline we travel at 7 knots at 1150RPM, which gives us fuel economy of 8 litres (2 US gallons)per hour or about 3 tenths of a gallon to go 1 nautical mile.

8 litres an hour at 7 knots (1.14L/nm)


http://cruisingunderpower.fastmail.net/Budget cruising article.html

http://cruisingunderpower.fastmail.net/

I know which fuel bill I lean towards

 

[decoguy]

This also makes interesting reading, seems to be conceptually similar to Windhorse.

http://hiswasymposium.com/pdf/2006/J. Gelling.pdf

 

[Manie B]

Good one intersting read thanks

 

[apex1]

Just yesterday we had this topic:
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/axe-bow-concept-29528.html#post303816

Richard

 

[Crag Cay]

Was at Berthon's yard recently and it looks like Wind Horse is for sale

 

[Tad]

And Idlewild remains for sale after 5 years....now at $350k....still a silly price

http://www.pacificboatbrokers.com/details.asp?File_Number=PA2635

 

[u4ea32]

I don't think Wind Horse is for sale: Steve is planning to cross the Atlantic for the Bahamas soon. Berthon are agents to sell the production FPB 64 yachts.

I agree with you Tad, Idelwild is still asking a silly price.

 

[Crag Cay]

I don't think Wind Horse is for sale . . .

That's quite possible - I just saw her lined up in the brokerage area when I arrived. I haven't seen her listed.

 

[dskira]

The cost of the rig and sails aboard our Tayana 55 is conservatively in excess of 150k, probably MUCH more. This isn't high tech stuff either!

Well, you like to spend don't you?
Your estimate is not the rule, is........quite high .

Daniel

 

[goodwilltoall]

Windhorse is a neat looking boat and if you have tons of money a good choice for journeys across the oceans. Steve Dashew likes to do about 300 miles a day and costs of about $3.00 per mile traveled equates to $900.00 per day. With all the other gizmos included, maintence, depreciation, and frequent repairs the actual costs run into thousands of dollars per day.

 

[apex1]

With all the other gizmos included, maintence, depreciation, and frequent repairs the actual costs run into thousands of dollars per day.

...into hundreds of thousands Goody!

But sitting at the docks would not be cheaper over the years! The opposite.

Do you believe that owners spending millions on a newbuilt boat care about 100$ more or less per day?

 

[goodwilltoall]

1. Windhorse does not cost hundreds of thousands per day.
2. Sitting at the docks is sometimes cheaper.
3. People that have made millions due care about $100.00, by careful accounting is sometimes how the became millionaires.

Just because some people spend thousands of dollars per day cruising does not mean that is for everyone. Some prefer different, more cost effective cruisers even if they can afford something like Windhorse.

 

[apex1]

1. Windhorse does not cost hundreds of thousands per day.

My mistake! I meant p.a.

But it does not cost thousand per day either!

2. Sitting at the docks is sometimes cheaper.

No, it is not.

3. People that have made millions due care about $100.00, by careful accounting is sometimes how the became millionaires.

No dear, not when they enjoy their hobby.

Just because some people spend thousands of dollars per day cruising does not mean that is for everyone. Some prefer different, more cost effective cruisers even if they can afford something like Windhorse.

You don´t understand that windhorse is already the cost effective cruiser here.
And thousands per day is just your phantasy, not the real world data.

 

[goodwilltoall]

Apex,

1.What do you mean by p.a.?

2. Thats why most boats sit at docks- to expensive to take out.

3. Hobby or not, people throwing around money is your phantasy.

4. Steve Dashew said it approached $3.00 per mile when cruising with Windhorse or Beowulf, his data not mine. With the other cost factors mentioned, it does cost over $1,000.00 per day.

 

[marshmat]

p.a. = per annum (year)

re. Operating cost of Wind Horse: Steve's published articles on operating cost (most recent is http://setsail.com/operating-costs-sail-vs-power/ ) suggest $2.67/mile to run the FPB. At 11,000 miles per year (Steve's figure) plus about $9000 a year for storage/hauling/launching (again, Steve's figure), that's a bit over 38 grand per year to run the boat. There's insurance on top of that- which Steve says is about 0.6% for an FPB in its typical use- plus whatever it costs to feed, clothe and heal the crew.

Comparing per-mile costs to per-year costs has to be done on a miles per year basis, not miles per day. Wind Horse can knock off 250 miles a day easily, but only does so for perhaps a month and a half out of the year. Like virtually all non-commercial boats, she'll be docked or at anchor most of the time.

Is it a cheap boat? No, not by the standards most of us would have to use. But compared to its real competition- luxury ocean passagemakers in the $2M to $5M range- it is undoubtedly the practical, cost-effective member of the fleet.