how connect center console to deck ? bolts or glue

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  1. hyboats
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    I saw two ways on many fishing boats, one is bolts, another is glue on. Which is better ? :?:
    Look at the picture.
     

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  2. Myoung42
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    Do you want to be able to remove it? Seems like it could be sufficiently designed either way. I assume it's for your boat, so what are your requirements?
     
  3. hyboats
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    hyboats Junior Member

    I like removeable one.
     
  4. PAR
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    The right hand image suggests it could trap and hold moisture and more importantly, provides a huge amount of point loading on the deck flange, which would likely break, unless ridiculously overly built.

    The left hand image shows a natural dam to redirect and shed moisture and the attachment, strengthens the hole in the deck, not weakening it, as the other does.

    Everything needs to come off at some point for repairs, upgrades, changes, etc. The moment you don't plan for this, is the time you'll curse when you're taking a saws-all to the base, to gain the access you figured you didn't need.
     
  5. tunnels

    tunnels Previous Member

    Not bolts or glue !!! but bolts washers and glue !!:D
     
  6. PAR
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    I disagree, bolts, washers and sealant, not glue.
     
  7. tunnels

    tunnels Previous Member

    Have done a lot of repairs of floors and places where the console has come loose and the floor has gone spongy because of poor design and poor workmanship and rubbish core used under the floor . A console is one of the most widely used parts of the boat , it is the focal point that every one heads for when its rough to hold onto and get behind , has all manner of junk attached to it , Make it strong as a rock , Bolts washed and Glue , Do the job once do it properly and spend your time fishing with peace of mind not worrying about it staying together . :D
     
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    I fear, the one you like to contradict here has done more of those repairs professionally than you
     

  9. PAR
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    What does this have to do with a well engineered joint? Of course a poor joint is going to fail. In this application the choice is up to the builder, so a strong joint is easily attainable. The same can be said of the workmanship comment and the rubbish sole core.

    Not being able to remove a console is an amateur's work, as is insisting on both bolts and glue, when one or the other is more then sufficient (and cheaper) is too. A simple shoe box joint will keep water out, makes for an easy thing to reinforce and through bolt too.
     
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