How can a cheap American buy a HOUSE in the 1st. World ?

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  1. troy2000
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    I think the disagreement over how much of the Oregon Territory should be American and how much should be part of Canada was a fairly legitimate one, not just a dirty land grab by the United States. The US and the British had conflicting treaties with Russia and Spain, both countries had economic interests and settlers, etc.

    And you'll notice that despite all the rhetoric, Polk didn't go to war with the British. We compromised on the 49th Parallel....
     
  2. Frosty

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    America has no history, they cling to what they have like a clam on your prop shaft.

    They need to clean out the back yard and hose the place out clean, throw away the refrigerators and coke machines , side valve chevy's and muscle cars along with the constitution , the Fed and just about everything. The American state of mind may be difficult but it all starts with a good clean out.

    You know what you have to do, but you wont do it , you cant do it, you need a war on your own soil, the enemies being within or out like Libyia or Syria.
     
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    This is what we don't need, crazy people from Thailand or wherever else overseas telling us how to improve our country by destroying it.

    I dare you to move tomorrow to Libyia or Syria Frosty.
     
  4. Frosty

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    Thats a 42 year investment for only 400% 10 % per anum.
     
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    I say it once again Gentlemen if the young people don't get a grass roots voting movement in action there is not a chance in hell of improving things and we are on a slippery slope.The citizens of a country hold supreme power in their vote, how can that message be driven home. Do we have to go to the extreme of making it law to register and vote in order to save our countries. I think we do because those not voting are destroying the total voice of the country from being heard. It in effect lessens the choice of those that do. It's one of the issues i am pushing with my area MLA. The other is I would like to see high school kids paid to go to school-- they clock in and out just like on the job of their future. They are given three sick days a month after which they are docked. If they fail a grade they go on half pay to repeat it. All it would take is 4 yrs. we would have one hell of an increase in high school grads. Those that succeed go to university at half normal tuition but by earning credit points instead of cash using the same system as that in their 4 high school years. Imagine the overall education a country would have --imagine how the low and middle class kids could compete against the upper rich class. This my friends would go alog way to making all men(women) equal. The problem is unless we all vote, the upper controlling class would never allow this to occur as it would be too much competition for their crew. The greatest gifts a country can bestow upon it's citizens is health care and education which in turn will give them the tools to earn food and shelter. Shame on those countries --mine included for not providing this complete basic human package --afterall isn't that why we formed countries in the first place.

    Off to the bunk--
     
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    I'm puzzled, Frosty. Exactly what do you think we should replace our 'archaic' government with? A Queen, Privy Council, Prime Minister, House of Lords and House of Commons?

    And what parts of our Constitution don't you like? The parts that guarantee us freedom of speech, assembly and worship? The parts that provide for elections?
     
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    If you rented instead of mortgage, you would have the cost of rent per anum. for your place to live.
     
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    I think you misunderstood, frosty.
    I sold that house after 20 years, in 1990 when the mortgage was paid for.

    Actually, I sold it to tennants who had rented from me @ $200 a month for 8 years.
    And 50k sale on 10k purchase looks like 500% increase to me.
    :D
     
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    You did better than I do.... I still have to pay dues, and they're more than the 25 bucks a month I'm getting.:)
     
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    Public education in the US is broken. Socialized health care in England has a terrible reputation.

    If it worked it would be great. But when the govt runs things, it usually gets messed up. IMO
     
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    I think that is a very interesting idea! Pay them in college too! Higher grades higher pay rate, as incentive. I wouldnt have pay differential based on grades in high school though.
     
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    And where would we get the money to pay kids for going to school? Many school districts right now are already scrabbling, just to keep the schools open and pay the teachers.....

    People are screaming about their taxes already being too high.
     
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    Don't think you need more money for education, you need better results.

    Many, perhaps most kids have no intention of pursuing an academic career and college....they want to be a welder,farmer, boat builder, fisherman or ship captain.


    If you can find out what they want you can motivate them to success.

    The ability to read and math skills are all that you need in life...get them reading and writing at a young age then offer them life skills or university.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Lottery#The_Beginning

    The BeginningThe Florida Lottery began operation on January 12, 1988 by order of a constitutional amendment approved by Florida voters by a 2-to-1 margin in the general election of November 4, 1986. The point of the Lottery is to give extra funding to Florida education, and it was mandated that a significant proportion of all revenue generated by ticket sales go to the Education Enhancement Trust Fund. The Bright Futures scholarship program is funded by the Florida Lottery.
     

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    http://www.fldoe.org/news/2010/2010_01_25-4.asp

    Governor Crist pointed to Florida’s decade of educational progress continued this year with an 8th-place national ranking by the 2010 Quality Counts: Fresh Course, Swift Current report. Florida’s ranking is due to improved student performance in elementary, middle and high schools; incentives for top-performing teachers and Florida’s ability to attract and retain a strong teacher workforce; high academic standards and rigorous testing programs; and the percentage of state funds spent on public schools and equitable distribution of those funds to school districts.

    The Quality Counts report card issued annually by Education Week tracks state education policies and performance and assigns each state an overall point total to signify their education standing in the nation. This year’s ranking improves the Sunshine State’s ranking of 10th last year and 14th in 2008, up from 31st in 2007.
     
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