Hi this is my boat

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by GIULIETTA, Jul 12, 2007.

  1. GIULIETTA
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    GIULIETTA Sail it like you stole it

    Hi everyone, I'm new here, but been sailing since 1979.

    This is my new boat, a 42' Custom Built Racer/cruiser, hand built in Portugal with the objective of racing and some crusing in Southern Europe. Took 2 years in the build.

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    I have hundreds of photos and more details should you be interested. She's a very light and fast boat, whose hull was made from the same mould the 4 times Portuguese IRC boat was made, except she's all made in Divinycell sandwich, and has a full crusing interior in Red Cherrywood. I designed the deck layout and interior to my specification, the builder designed the hull and sailing details.

    Mast is a Custom Sparcraft Performance, and the boat is loaded with CF parts, such as the boom and forward swept spreaders.

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    Enjoy
     
  2. USCGRET/E8
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    USCGRET/E8 Senior Chief

    I see youve discovered my new forum!!
     
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  3. marshmat
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    marshmat Senior Member

    She's a real beauty, Giulietta. Clean, simple, elegant and classy. I wouldn't doubt that she's got a fair turn of speed to match.
    Enjoy your time out on the water!
     
  4. GIULIETTA
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    GIULIETTA Sail it like you stole it

    Veeeeeeeeery veeeeeeeery fast!!!!:p :p :p :p :p

    Thanks for the comment. I've had her at 19 knots, normally cruise at 10 to 12.
     
  5. USCGRET/E8
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    USCGRET/E8 Senior Chief

    :eek: :eek: 19 knots!!! :eek: :eek:
    Get out the water skiis:D
     
  6. Vega
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    Vega Senior Member

    Olá, welcome to the Forum:)

    It is a very nice boat. I had already seen photos of it, but I never had the opportunity to see it sailing. I only have time for sailing in the summer holidays and then I don’t stay in the Algarve. Normally I sail to the Balearic Islands or to the North of Spain.

    I am curious about your boat. I have asked to Delmar Conde's son about the cost of making a boat like yours and about the Stability curve and AVS, but about the latter he didn't know very well what I was talking about (he didn't have an idea of the boat's AVS, and that seemed odd to me) and about the price, it seems that it is Tabu:p

    Can you cast some light over both subjects?;)
     
  7. GIULIETTA
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    GIULIETTA Sail it like you stole it

    Obrigado for the remarks, it was a life time dream I had, to build my boat the way I wanted, how I wanted, to do what I wanted, nothing in production was what I really wanted, and today production boats are really too expensive for what they are worth, and the average is pretty bad. (excluding Nautor, Halber RAssy, Sweden etc.)

    She was the subject of Revists Vela and Navegar magazines during the February editions, if you want I have the magazine articles in PDF.

    Do really believe they don't know the answer to the AVS? ;) ;)

    And yes, the price is more than tabu.:D :D :D

    I am in Vilmoura all of August, come by for a ride, if you want. If not, After September, in cascais, till June.
     
  8. longliner45
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    longliner45 Senior Member

    welcome aboard,,,,,very ,,very nice...longliner
     
  9. Vega
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    Thanks for the invitation:cool: . I have read those magazines.

    They have an AVS and a stability curve because it was needed to certify the boat.

    What I had said was that Delmar's son didn't know the AVS figure (at the time). It is on the papers for sure, but it seems odd to me that he needs to have a look at the papers to know the approximate value.

    I like that kind of boats. Your boat it is not far in his lines of a class40 boat, without water ballast. These boats have a large transom and have a big positive stability but also tend to have a considerable inverted stability. A well-balanced stability curve is important as well as a high AVS, to make sure that your boat can return from an inverted position in a reasonable time period.

    For you, as a skipper, it is also very important to know the stability curve of your boat. It is the only way to know the way your boat will behave in extreme circumstances, including a capsize. That knowledge is fundamental to adapt your seamanship to the characteristics of your boat.

    As this is a Design forum and your boat is an interesting and uncommon one, it would be very interesting if you post the stability curve of your boat. Or is that Tabu too?:p
     
  10. GIULIETTA
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    GIULIETTA Sail it like you stole it

    I have over 3500 photos of the different construction phases, from the mould waxing to first sail....if someone here wants to see them or wants me to post them, I can do it.

    It will take me a few hours, but its all to share.

    Photos and answers to a few questions is all I will share now. (G)
     
  11. charmc
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    Welcome, Giulietta, your boat is beautiful, outside and in. Congratulations!
     
  12. Omeron
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    Omeron Senior Member

    Congratulations. Very nice boat indeed.
    Forward swept spreaders?
    Can we get to know more about them?
    What purpose do they accomplish, as opposed to the usual
    aft swept ones?
     
  13. GIULIETTA
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    GIULIETTA Sail it like you stole it

    Omeron, the forward swept spreaders are used because of the following:

    Since my boat has a wide stern, and is a considerably beamy boat, pointing suffers a little, when compared to a boat with a narrower beam.

    In order to be able to compensate for that, and allow the boat to point better, we needed to approach the tack of the Genoa as close as possible to the center of the boat and mast.

    To do this, and if you look closely at my photos, you can see that my genoa tracks and sheets both work inside the shrouds, instead outside as is more frequentely found in cruising boats.

    This poses a problem: If the sail has an LP measurement that is too large, obviusly the leech of the sail touches the spreaders.

    By shaping the spreaders so that they are curved backwards, creates a space that allows the genoa to have a "belly" towards the back, at the leech, without increasing the J measurement, which allows for a considerable increase in sail area, without penalty.

    Most head sail measurements for ratings only demand the dimentions at J, I and LP. So by doing this I can have a larger area genoa without affecting rating.

    If you look again at some of the photos, you can see that the racing genoa has battens to help the genoa maintain its shape because of the "belly".

    In reality the spreaders are not forward swept, they are back swept, really, but the backwards bend give us the optical isllusion that they are swept forward.

    Basically its just to create space to allow for a biger sail.
     
  14. mtjennin
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    mtjennin New Member

    id like to see all the pics.
     

  15. kettay
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    kettay Junior Member

    me too, i would like to see the pics. beautiful boat
     
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